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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Red Fuel

Anyone used any red diesel in their 6l PSD? The owners manual says not too, but when I am in a bind, I do have it available. Ran it in my 94 no problem.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Some food for thought.

Red diesel is just non taxed #2. Supposed to be used only for off road purposes only. i.e. farming, mining, etc.

Once in the tank, it will register for many many fill-ups. Unless you flush your tank, you will have the red residue for a long time.

It is illegal to run on the road!!!!

If caught, at least in my home state, they fine you a substantial base fine plus your total mileage divided by average miles per gallon x the fuel tax. Even if they find trace red in you fuel, you pay the tax for all the fuel you have used to date. Can get quite expensive.

Fuel stations here report suspicious fueling to authorities. My builder has a diesel pickup, that has a tank in the back for fueling his on site equipment. He has been stopped several times to check his fuel for red contamination.

Most big fueling depots have video security that would also lend itself to identifying this behavior.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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I used it once, I wanted to see the power gaines, It is higher sulfer content, it is non emission approved thats why it is for off road use and industrial use(generators) It will not hurt the engine, It actually has more lubricating properties, and has a higher btu content thats why you see more power out of it. But it will be harder to start in the cold weather. Getting into the single numbers here so I havent used it in a while. As stated by jfralph dont get caught using it. So not emissions approved, But the chance of getting pulled over and getting your tank sticked in a pu truck is so minumil. Or however you spell it.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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our non street legal trucks 6L and 7.3s run dyed diesel only. They have never seen pavement either.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Red Diesel... Home Heating Oil...


Its all the exact some thing.

One has a dye so uncle sam can tax you harder one does not.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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After Katrina and Rita they were selling red fuel in the pumps. The only difference is what was said, higher sulfer content and not taxed. More sulfer content has better lubricating qualities.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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A lot of us down South will be hurting if we travel and get a fuel inspection.

After Katrina, dyed fuel was the only fuel available for awhile. The EPA and the IRS gave an exemption, so long as the excise taxes on the fuel were paid (the fuel seller usually paid them for sales at the pump, farmers can report using their off-road stock on hand on their end of year tax return.)

But I guess some of the states didn't get the word.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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I wouldn't worry, just mention your whole system was dyed because of katrina. As long as they don't find red in your tank.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Customz
I wouldn't worry, just mention your whole system was dyed because of katrina. As long as they don't find red in your tank.
I can always say I threw in a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to lube the injectors!
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:13 AM
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when we had the storms down here in FL,the fuel stations were using red fuel due to the shortage.I ran two tanks and was fine.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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When I lived in nw montana the feds had a expression for farmers and ranchers running red out on the streets. "Better dead than red" In other words they would fine your *** off and watch every move you made from then on!!
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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I know a couple of people down here running the stuff and I really think the local state gov can care less sometimes..I had a bud who pumped it right into his truck at a station without no worries.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Alot of people running it, chances of getting caught in a pu truck are slim, But get caught and it will cost big $$$.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Just don't get in an accident with fuel spill.THEN they really know what you have and then call the hazmat people to clean up the high sulfur fuel and add that cost to the fine. Outch!
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Question?? What is Green fuel?? Right after Katrina every time I filled up I was getting bright green fuel, now it is back to clear.
 
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