Does fuel conditioner/injector cleaner work?

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Dec 21, 2005 | 03:26 PM

#16

flamenco5555

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anti-gelling

here is what he told me about anti-gelling (the white bottle):

gelling is a very specific term describing the point at which deisel won't pour...the point it actually becomes a solid. i guess it crystalizes at about 40 below. anti-gel only helps to lower that gelling point about 10 degrees or so. so, unless you are getting temperatures that low it will really do nothing to make thickened and very cold diesel any more liquid. he described the problem with cold but not gelled fuel to be the effeciency of the fuel to be injected properly.

Dec 21, 2005 | 03:31 PM

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jeffdoerr

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From: MI -- farmboy

mine is in a gray jug, i get it at TSC because I do not agree with how walmart treats their suppliers, builders, employees, etc. They are truely an evil empire.

Dec 21, 2005 | 04:35 PM

#18

BikePilot

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I use the winter one (IIRC that's the white one) because, well its winter:lol

I belive the grey one boosts cetain a bit more, but since I double dose on the winter stuff it probably works out the same.

Dec 22, 2005 | 05:47 PM

#19

Hamberger

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From: Ladner, British Columbia

I have used Diesel Kleen, Diesel Tone, Howie's and Lubricity. All are good products and definetely worth the money.

I also installed a 2 micron in lieu of the factory 10 micron water separator filter right after I bought my 93' F250.

I have never had any problems with the IP or injectors and at 210,000 the IP and injectors run like new. Definetely worth the couple of bucks I spent on additives.

Dec 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM

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Dave Sponaugle

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From: Nutter Fort, WV

Straight number 2 diesel will start getting cloudy at about 15 degrees plus or minus a bit.
This is the cloud point.
The cloudyness is parafin wax crystals congealing out of the fuel.
Everyone calls congealing ... gelling
Even though the fuel is still liquid these crystals can block a fuel filter and leave you stranded.
Once you get below zero the next hurdle is the pour point.
Straight number two will have so much parafin in it at about minus 20 that it will not pour out of a gas can.

Adding the white bottle Diesel Kleen or some other antigell formula will get you down to about minus 20 or 25.
To go lower than that you need to start adding kerosene at the rate of 1 gallon per 10 gallons of diesel.

Dec 27, 2005 | 06:29 AM

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backhoeken

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I have using both the White in Winter and Grey in warmer weather for well overe 6 years on various pieces of equipment. Personally have been on diesels for well over 30 years mostly on farm tractors and p/u trucks. Having said that in the last 10 years the fuel lub and I swear quality has without question decreased and have had to have many a rebuild of injectors and a couple of pumps.

Since we started to use the Diesel clean in the last 4 years not once has anything been repaired on the injectors or the pump! I have to keep detailed records if anyone wants to see. The diesel equipment we around is

1989 F250 with 7.3 diesel engine
1986 755 backhoe
1963 JD tractor
1994 JD tractor
2004 F350

On the F250 which only use "on road" fuel I have done a number of tests over the year before sticking to the "clean products". It did take almost 2 bottles to clean out the engine but it did work. Relaliblity and stick welders are both critical to small farmers and I am sticking with what works.

On the tractors an backhoe we use off road fuel, the difference can be seen in the first fill up. I get fuel delivered once a month and just end up dumping in 2 bottles of the grey stuff with each filling. During winter months I also dump in 5 gallons of Keroseen to keep it from gelling.

Ken

Dec 27, 2005 | 05:26 PM

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flamenco5555

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ken, how many miles on the f 250? do u work for power services? lol -nick

Dec 27, 2005 | 09:30 PM

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backhoeken

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Right now it has 279,481. We got it at 157,000 and I (and parents, grandparents) was a full time farmer until recently when I started in the Information Tech field.