What was ford thinking
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Its really stupid, and another stupid thing is where they put the filter, right next to case. All the ford dealers in my area suck too. The screw you over and they are you cant ask them anything and have them know an answer. I am sick of ford. I would of stuck my neck out on the line about how ford are the best, but not no more. Monday im going to a local Chevy dealer and seeing what they will give me for my
Last edited by IB Tim; Dec 10, 2005 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Removed the F****** transfer, just f****** stupid,piece of sh** ranger. Warned one more he is gone, email me if it happens
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I have a 2WD, so no comment on that but I don't doubt it. It's a small truck, they had to put it somewhere. It's hard enough to get to in a 2WD with the case it's in and the clips.
I'd watch the language, mods might get onto you for that.
If you want to trade it in, that's your decision.
I'd watch the language, mods might get onto you for that.
If you want to trade it in, that's your decision.
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There is room for it to be moved back atleast 8 inches to get away from the transfer case. i went to a dealer about those clips and they had no idea what i was talking about (stupid employees).
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On most Ford fuel lines they're clips with garter springs. O'reilly autoparts has the little plastic tools that go around the fuel line, slide up, and stretch the spring out so you can undo the connection.
Every auto has hard to get to parts. If its not the fuel connection on that Ford it will be the sparkplugs back under the windshield on an F-body camaro, or a timing belt on a tranverse mounted engine in an import car.
here's how it's done
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/530871/2
I would try google before calling anyone stupid
Every auto has hard to get to parts. If its not the fuel connection on that Ford it will be the sparkplugs back under the windshield on an F-body camaro, or a timing belt on a tranverse mounted engine in an import car.
here's how it's done
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/530871/2
I would try google before calling anyone stupid
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I hate the fact that the joints get all grubby and full of dirt and grit! Much easier to clean the area with the 'traditional' setup - hose clamp and rubber hose type.
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Dear seth1, Once upon a time, I owned an S-10 Blazer, bought it new. I now have 4 Rangers all over 11 years old. I have done less "needed" work on all 4 Rangers than that S-10 needed in the time that I owned it,approx. 6 mo.
You think the fuel filter is bad on a Ranger, change the oil filter or the rear spark plug on an S-10 or listen to the rear end make funny noises, the window fall down in it's channel, the 4wd that wouldn't shift, the outside mirrors that fall off, all which the dealer would not or could not fix. I also paid extra for the extended warranty,lot of good that did. Didn't take me long to find out what the S in S-10 stood for, so go trade in your Ranger, buy a Chevy and let someone get a good deal on your Ranger for doing a 15 min. job. Sell it to someone you work with and you might be able to get a ride to work while your Chevy is in the shop getting a new transmission.
P.S. You think G.M. is laying off 60,000 workers because there good vehicles. My wife worked with a lady who was an inspector at G.M., she drove Fords, wouldn't have a Chevy, she said.
You think the fuel filter is bad on a Ranger, change the oil filter or the rear spark plug on an S-10 or listen to the rear end make funny noises, the window fall down in it's channel, the 4wd that wouldn't shift, the outside mirrors that fall off, all which the dealer would not or could not fix. I also paid extra for the extended warranty,lot of good that did. Didn't take me long to find out what the S in S-10 stood for, so go trade in your Ranger, buy a Chevy and let someone get a good deal on your Ranger for doing a 15 min. job. Sell it to someone you work with and you might be able to get a ride to work while your Chevy is in the shop getting a new transmission.
P.S. You think G.M. is laying off 60,000 workers because there good vehicles. My wife worked with a lady who was an inspector at G.M., she drove Fords, wouldn't have a Chevy, she said.
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I think that could be switched just as easily. An inspector for Ford might see what's happening and only drive another company. Simple as that.
I'm with rich, there are MUCH harder jobs out there to do. Rear spark plugs on a Camaro are a pain. Ask anyone who's changed them before. Our Silverado had a leak in it's windshield washer fluid resevoir. When they built it in 2000 they put it into the vehicle then actually assembled it into one peice. So it was impossible to remove as a whole, you had to cut it in half to remove it. So I did, and thus made the leak much worse (duh). Took it out, got a torch, and remade it to slide back in. Fits perfect now, and if need be, I can slide it right out.
I'm with rich, there are MUCH harder jobs out there to do. Rear spark plugs on a Camaro are a pain. Ask anyone who's changed them before. Our Silverado had a leak in it's windshield washer fluid resevoir. When they built it in 2000 they put it into the vehicle then actually assembled it into one peice. So it was impossible to remove as a whole, you had to cut it in half to remove it. So I did, and thus made the leak much worse (duh). Took it out, got a torch, and remade it to slide back in. Fits perfect now, and if need be, I can slide it right out.
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Originally Posted by probedude
Much easier to clean the area with the 'traditional' setup - hose clamp and rubber hose type.
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I think that I can top the fuel filter problem. I was working on an S-10 4x4 with a v-6 a few years ago. (Not sure exactly what year, mid to late 80's, wasn’t my truck thank goodness) Try taking the distributor shaft out. It wont come out. It hits the fire wall. There is no room for the shaft to clear the block. I tried everything that I could think of. Nothing worked. The shaft was just too long. After some research, I found that the cab had to be jacked up off the frame to make room for the shaft to clear. That’s right, remove the nuts on the cab supports and put a jack under the cab and lift it off the frame. All of that just to take the distributor shaft out. I think that the engineers who design new vehicles lay awake at night thinking of ways to insure that their respective dealerships can get more work. They design the vehicles so that the common every day back yard mechanic has to bring their vehicles to a dealer. It’s not just Ford.
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If you've ever had paint fall off your Ch - - - [I have] you'll never buy another one. Their customer service said, "You don't understand, sir, we don't care what kind of car you buy- We're General Motors!"
Ford dealers around here are great, especially in smaller towns. We were loaded up for a trip, got to LaGrande, Oregon, serpentine belt broke, on a Saturday. Called the Ford roadside assistance [in India!] and pretty soon out came a flatbed and a nice cool Explorer to take us back to the dealer. They called their mechanic at home on Saturday to come put on a new belt- no charge.
--van
Ford dealers around here are great, especially in smaller towns. We were loaded up for a trip, got to LaGrande, Oregon, serpentine belt broke, on a Saturday. Called the Ford roadside assistance [in India!] and pretty soon out came a flatbed and a nice cool Explorer to take us back to the dealer. They called their mechanic at home on Saturday to come put on a new belt- no charge.
--van
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We have a Chevy/GMC dealership out near here that's like that. I went to get running boards for my grandmother's Yukon GT, drove my grandfather's F-250, came out from the dealership and had a flat. Couple of their maintenance guys came out and changed the tire free of charge after they saw me starting to. I was impressed, good guys, even better than when we bought my mom's truck there after a downright horrible experience with a nearby Ford dealership.
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Originally Posted by Rockledge
Not sure if this is a good idea, especially on the 98+ Rangers with returnless fuel systems. The fuel pressure for these systems is at 64psi +/- 8psi which is probably too high for a simple hose clamp setup to be able to achieve the reliability that's needed there.
Ford's reasoning for using the spring fitting is to decrease their assembly time - works great for that reason! Bad for AC fittings over the years and not something the home person can take apart without a tool.