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Nov 18, 2005 | 07:58 AM

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krewat

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Stroke between V10 and 5.4L are the same.

One thing: Even the little 4.6L has cross-bolted mains.

Nov 18, 2005 | 11:21 AM

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The stroke is exactly the same as the 5.4. Most of the parts are interchangeable. The 5.4 race rods would be a great alternative. They do sell some nice h beam rods for a decent price.

Nov 18, 2005 | 12:11 PM

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The stroke is exactly the same as the 5.4. Most of the parts are interchangeable. The 5.4 race rods would be a great alternative. They do sell some nice h beam rods for a decent price.

The only thing to say to this is "Watch the rod and piston weights" ... changing the reciprocating weight is going to require modifying the balancing shaft counterweights.

Nov 21, 2005 | 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperdutyRob

The stroke is exactly the same as the 5.4. Most of the parts are interchangeable. The 5.4 race rods would be a great alternative. They do sell some nice h beam rods for a decent price.

somebody is making (relatively) affordable titanium H-beam rods now, they're around $350 each.

So we have 'powdered metal' rods (is that the right term?), what exactly does that term mean ? There's another race rod/part with a similar name, what's the diff ?

Nov 21, 2005 | 10:57 AM

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I have seen the titanium rods. They are very cool. I don't think I would spend close to $4000 for a set for the v10. Maybe in a 10,000 rpm race engine. The rods in the v10 are powdered metal rods. From what I know, the rods begin as a powder, and fed into a mold to create the initial forging. Not strong at all. The difference between a race rod and the stocker is how the forging process is done. The race rod is compressed with thousands of pounds of pressure. That makes a very strong forging. I know there is more detail to the process, but this is just the jist of it.

Nov 21, 2005 | 01:35 PM

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$4K would be big money for rods, especially since there are so few hot rod parts for the V10. But I would think with a couple turbo's, or lots of boost from a huffer, rods would be high on my list of Christmas presents. I really doubt the V10 will catch on as a hot rod engine, not with the dearth of crate engines today you can buy. Heck for less than $5K you can build a 5.0 HO to make 400 hp/400ft lbs including the base engine picked up from a junkyard. Which is why I'm really counting on Fred to build one and drop it in his T-bucket. I wanna see that,,,,,

Nov 21, 2005 | 06:30 PM

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ken
how about one sitting inside the hood of a 1953 f100? i'm still thinking even though i love the sound of a flat head running straight pipes.

Nov 21, 2005 | 08:44 PM

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Would you go to the extent of getting a 3-valver to work in there, or just turbo/supercharge a 2-valver?

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Nov 22, 2005 | 01:26 PM

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Would you go to the extent of getting a 3-valver to work in there, or just turbo/supercharge a 2-valver?

speaking of turbo/superchargers,,,,,, heh heh,,,,, anyone seen or know about the Rotrex s/c's ? All the benefits of a turbo, ie; fast spool up and the potential for LOTS of boost. And the benefits of a belt-driven supercharger, ie less heat, less parasitic loss as opposed to a vaned huffer. Right now larger engines have to run twin units, since these were designed for wimpy, little european cars, but the company is said to be designing units for large american engines. The whole thing looks darned interesting, especially the internals. No belts, no gears and a huge multiplication rate for boost.

The Koenisberg (sp?) supercar uses a 4.6L Ford modular engine. Here is a blurb from their website;

The CCR engine delivers 806 Hp at 7000 rpm and 920 (550 ft-lb) Nm of torque at 5,400 rpm. It is a state-of-the-art Quad Cam semi-stressed V8 construction with a 4.7 litre displacement and 32 valves. The CCR is boosted to its extreme power output by a unique Bi-compressor Supercharging system, which employs twin centrifugal compressors to enable a 1.4 bar maximum boost pressure at 5000 RPM. This system significantly increases power and torque across a broad rev band, and it also includes the revolutionary Koenigsegg RBC-System (Response Boost Control) (pat. pend), which completely obliterates on-off throttling lag time.

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