C6 to E4OD in 85 Bronco?
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C6 to E4OD in 85 Bronco?
I have an 85 Bronco 351w H.O. It has a C6 in it right now that is in it's final death throws. My buddy is junking his 90 F-250 that has a brand new E4OD in it I was wondering if the swap is possible since the E4OD is electric with no kickdown any advice would help. the E4OD is bolted to a 351 right know
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Masseysbronco has it right, the E4OD will need the correct computer to control it and the computer will only work porperly with all of the engine sensors feeding it information as well. Unless you feel like swapping wiring harnesses and adding a computer-driven power plant, you would be better off with another C6 or even an AOD (if you want an OD transmission) since adding the TV cable/linkage for it would still be less trouble.
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Why is everybody so incredibly afraid of installing a few wires even with included schematics?
Almost every thread the E4od is rejected or not-adviced, because of the " huge" trouble to get trough due to some wires...
Just take a look at the baumannator website, and find that it's actually very very easy... (and in my opinion, even better than fabbing a TV linkage...)
Its like people are afraid of things they don't know, or don't have knowledge about...
Almost every thread the E4od is rejected or not-adviced, because of the " huge" trouble to get trough due to some wires...
Just take a look at the baumannator website, and find that it's actually very very easy... (and in my opinion, even better than fabbing a TV linkage...)
Its like people are afraid of things they don't know, or don't have knowledge about...
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I wouldn't be afraid of ANY number of wires if the E4OD were worth even considering for the transplant. Its a worthless hunk of scrap! It can't handle the torque from anything bigger than a bone stock 351 (5.8) and even the latest internal updates make it good for about 60-80K miles before it detonates! It has absolutely NOTHING to do with electronics. Electronics are my forte, I would embrace it whole-heartedly if it weren't mechanically inept. I would much rather re-calibrate an MLPS than tweak a TV cable myself but why bother if all the calibration in the world will still only yield a mediocre piece of equipment?
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I wouldn't be afraid of ANY number of wires if the E4OD were worth even considering for the transplant. Its a worthless hunk of scrap! It can't handle the torque from anything bigger than a bone stock 351 (5.8) and even the latest internal updates make it good for about 60-80K miles before it detonates! It has absolutely NOTHING to do with electronics. Electronics are my forte, I would embrace it whole-heartedly if it weren't mechanically inept. I would much rather re-calibrate an MLPS than tweak a TV cable myself but why bother if all the calibration in the world will still only yield a mediocre piece of equipment?
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The design isn't the problem, it's that people think ALL transmissions get the exact same internal parts for every motor and vehicle, when nothing could be further from the truth. The E4OD that goes behind the 460 is much stronger than one for a 5.0 for example, it gets more clutch plates and bigger servos and bands. Any of these trannys can be built to handle whatever you want to throw at them, it's just a matter of installing the right upgrades.
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Suit yourselves gentlemen. There is a reason that Ford completely reworked the E4OD after 1990 to the point that the casing cannot even be reused from a 1990 unit. There is also a reason most transmission experts won't touch 'em with a ten foot pole and IF they do they cut the warranty in half or won't warrant the reman. Yes, Ford put them behind every engine under the sun. Doesn't mean they would LAST there. Diesels eat them on a regular basis. The previous was NOT a rant and I don't appreciate the accusation. I've dealt with the E4OD in just about every application it was dropped in. Including a few stand-alone custom swaps like the one suggested here. I have done. Argue the point as you see fit.
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Well, in no way i intend to trash you, but i just purchased a "project" from someone which includes a 460EFI and a E4OD, and i have the bills with them; he payd $1000 for it.
Thats why i asked...
It is a '91 engine, and a ditto trans with upgraded-to-'96-specs on the bill. The request for that specific year was done to have it equipped with the mechanical speedo output to fit the car it comes into...
Thats why i asked...
It is a '91 engine, and a ditto trans with upgraded-to-'96-specs on the bill. The request for that specific year was done to have it equipped with the mechanical speedo output to fit the car it comes into...
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There is a reason that Ford completely reworked the E4OD after 1990...
Look, some folks can break an anvil with a rubber hammer, but I am betting there are more E4OD/4R100s out there with >100K miles on them than there are ones with <100K that are broken. Plus I don't know who you are having do your trans work, it may be that half the problem here is guys rebuilding the E4OD that don't know what they are doing. It's no different than people complaining how their TTB/TIB always eats tires - it's the guy doing the alignment that is the problem.
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Guys, a rebuilt tranny from Joe Blows tranny shop is NOT a "built tranny", it's just a case filled with "stock spec" parts from the cheapest offshore supplier Joe could find. The fact this only lasts 40k-60k should not be a surprise to anybody. The web is littered with all the info you could ever need on upgrading a tranny to handle abuse, just do a search.
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