My main question is/was where is all of the oil we are bringing up going? I still would like to know the answer to that.

And as far as having to go to foreign sources, why do you think we are going to them now? Because they are holding us in the palms of their hands! Is that really where you want to be? I really don't want to be controlled by any of the mideastern countries. And I'm sure none of the other fine americans across the country really want to be either.


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Back in the early 70s when we were developing the Alaska pipeline, we heard the same arguments. What will we do when Alaska is drilled dry? What about the wildlife, and the enviroment?
The domestic oil production in our country has been unprofitable for years because of cheap foreign oil. Now that prices are up, we should let the free market find its way to develop new supplies. Yes even the "sacred Artic Reserve".
BY having our own domestic supplies, OPEC will find prices falling and they will boost production, thus bringing prices into a more stable affordable range. A buyers market!
I can remember so many scare tactics used by the Anti-pipeline nuts 25 years ago, and they sound so familiar today. The earth was going to be completely out of fossil fuels by the year 2000, the pipeline was going to melt the permafrost, and it was going to kill wildlife.
Now it seems that there are many more oil reserves than thought 25 years ago. The Alaska pipeline is very efficent, The wildlife in Alaska actually congregate near the pipeline, and use it as sort of an animal hiway. You can't tell me that the Caribou really care if we drill in the Artic reserve or not! The two can co-exist just fine.
Greg58

 

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 18-Apr-01 AT 09:08 AM (EST)[/font][p]You believe drilling on our own soil will solve the problem?

Probably not, but at least it will solve some of our problems.

Tell me. What will you do when that oil is all gone? Crawl back to foreign countries and beg for oil? And once our own oil is gone, OPEC will see that we have no choice but to buy from them and jack the prices sky high!!
I am 100% against drilling oil in Alaska!

Do you think that the oil will go disappear in our lifetime? I seriously doubt it. I live in Kansas and they're is enough oil here that we could power the entire US, for quite awile. We are barely drilling any oil in Alaska now anyway's. How do we know that we wouldn't be drilling from the same reserve as they are in the middle east. Wouldn't that mean that they would run out of oil at the same time? I still see it as win-win. Creating jobs, etc etc. I would gladly pay $1.40/gallon or so, to know that it will stay at that price.

 

The reason gasoline prices are rising so fast is because we have allowed a robber baron to be installed as president. Unless congress develops some backbone and steps in, which is not likely, we are going to be gouged as long as bush jr is in office. george jr and Mr Chenney are both oilmen and are very much beholden to the oil industry. The will do what ever possible to create a crisis atmosphere and help the indusrty increase profits. If the CBS news is to be believed, oil company profits are up from 100% to 700%, depending which firm. bush jr's proposed budget has slashed $ for solar and windmill power because he wants us to burn as much fossil fuel as possible. Ethanol from corn and peanut and soybean oil will run spark ignition and diesel engines and help our farmers with a new market for their products but these ideas get almost no attention. Otto Diesel originally had soybean oil in mind for his engine design. Why doesn't george jr push these ideas? They don't make any $ for his oil pals. Even supply and demand rules don't seem to apply to gasoline. The price per barrel of oil went down 30 cents yesterday, but gas went from 1.53 to 1.77 while that happened. Demand reduction has no apparent effect, my shop is on 32 hr weeks and we are doubling up in our cars, my family already canceled our spring vacation, my co-workers are in similar straights, buying much less gas and the price still climbs. The industry is going to line their pockets while driving us into recession. I am open to suggestion as to what to do about it. DF

 

Heres a thought: my 1978 F150 Supercab, W/Ranger trim, a/c,cruise control,tilt wheel,intermidnt wipers, 15 mpg on cheap regular gasoline (302) IS paid for!!!!! I would complain too, if I had a FAT payment book, PLUS the high gas prices!!!! all we need to do is just more carefully plan our high dollar mods, and keep on truckin!!!!!!!!
And just in case anyone wants, or needs this info. on timing, here it is:Most engines with under 10.1 compression WILL run OK on 87 octane gasoline IF you retard the timing, just fill up with 87 octane & let it reach the engine, then back off the timing until the engine does not ping under accelleration, I have tried 93 octane in my 302, with the timing acvanced to take advantage of the extra octane, and retarded to run on the 87, not a whole lot of difference in power, and NO difference in gas mileage.
Also, nows the time to do that preventive maintenance tune-up,(change plugs & air filter, at least) Good Luck, Rick

 

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-01 AT 00:24 AM (EST)[/font][p]How can you see fit to blame this on the new president? We fought this same stupid gas price war last year under the billy bob brigade! It's not Bush's fault that the gas companies aren't making enough of the go juice to keep up with demand. One would think after all of the trouble last year, that they would have stepped upt their production.

So how can you blame it on Bush? I think somebodies looking for a scapegoat, and the most prominent one will do.


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Man ur lucky out here in NY Reg 87 octane is $1.95 and 97 octane is at the $2.00 mark. They say by mid June or July will hit the $2.50 to $3.00 mark. I have a 1988 F250 with dual tanks U know what thats like. Trying to rent a gas station jus for my family vehicles.

 

With the rising costs of gasoline, I have to think a few times about whether it is worth restoring old cars or trucks to original condition. I have plans to place modern running gear in most of my toys with the idea to offset the rising costs of gasoline (my '98 Z28 with a LS1 and 6speed gets 23mph all day) so I will go a similar route with most.

Mike

 

Pastmaster said: "Do you think that the oil will go disappear in our lifetime?"

Out of all the questions about this topic, this one greatly disturbs me. I am a young man who has no children yet. But I believe most of the folks who come to this web site have children. I am already looking out for my future children's future. Pastmaster said "our lifetime". Is that all you care about? What about your children's future. What about my childrens future? I am not going to stand by and let the next gerneration fix our problems. It doesn't matter if the oil wont run out for a long time. What matters is that we find other alternatives for fuel. Such as what Dinasorfan mentioned above. It's so scary to have a child these days and to imagine what this child will be facing in the future. Thats why in certain ways I fear our goverment. They seem to only care about the present. Don't let our children fix our problems and mistakes!

Jake, an enviromentalist

 

Kyle- I think bush jr and Cheney are very much to blame, as oil company millionares they knew, and they companys that pay them knew, that reformulated gasoline would be required in some parts of the nation. Well before the summer crunch these texas companys could have made an all out effort to brew as much of the stuff as they could, but they chose not to. When the price spiked last summer the oil barrons were getting the $ to install bush from the midwesterners. Now that bush jr is in, he must pay them for helping him- quid pro quo. How is he paying them ? By killing off alternative energy industries and making the legislation soft on the oil industry, currently oilmen want to drill under the great lakes and in alaska. We have to remember that the power to tax is the power to destroy, and the gov't under george jr is going to use that power to help oilmen fleece the nation. Look at the situation in california- the indusrty wrote their own legislation so they could make the most profit possible and dump the unprofitable portion of the bussiness on the public. Government by men is evil and george jr has neither the desire or the moral fiber to do what is right for the nation, it is too easy to just help his friends and himself. DF

 

You make it very easy for others to point fingers at the new president. But why wasn't anyone pointing fingers at the old president? This same type of thing happened under his watch as well, and what did he do? Open the national reserves, only for the northern states so the heating oil prices could come down. But when summer came last year? Same thing! Gas prices soaring!

Would you have blamed this sort of thing on little billy bob's sidekick?

It's easy to blame something on the president. It's harder to place blame on the people that are actually doing it. Is Bush controlling the prices on the pumps from the white house? No, he's not. The oil companies are controlling the prices, and everyone is looking for a scapegoat. Easiest way to find a scapegoat? Use the one everyone hates for winning the election.

Which he did win by the way. They finally finished counting the ballots!


1988 F-150, SWB, 5.0 EFI (formerly 4.9 EFI), M5OD 5 speed, 3.08 gears, Summit shorty truck headers, Custom built Flowmaster exhaust system. Force 4 LP6000 lightbar, Federal signal PA-300 100 watt siren, Icom IC-V100 50 watt mobile radio.
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-01 AT 07:53 PM (EST)[/font][p]Jake:

I too am a young college kid with no children. And yes, you have valid point about future. But do you seriously believe that we could ever "use-up" the fossil fuels in the next 200-300 years? What about water?

I agree with you, wholeheartidly about the alternative fuels, but how much will that cost to produce. Yes, they have allready found semi-synthetic fuels. Ever heard of Ethonol? Wonder what it's made of? CORN! Yes the same you eat on a cob.

Ever driven a vehicle that runs on Propane? Talk about SLOW!


Do you know why we haven't allready developed and marketed synthetic gasoline? Because of the price. Why do you think we depend on OPEC instead of ourselves?

Even if they did develop a product to totally replace gasoline. Can you imagine how much that is going to cost to produce? You think a gallon of gas is high priced now, it will be considerably higher then. The people of the US, want cheap fuels, that's what the problem is now. They want it cheap and plenty of it available. The only logical thing we can do is to drill more ourselves, and increase economy on combustion motors. It's called cost effectiveness...

 

boy o boy do y'all sound like a bunch of tree huggin envriomentelist wacko's.the democrat piece of dog doo Bill Clinton is what drove this economy into the ground and oil prices up.its all that crap EPA legaslation that he signed over a year ago.thats why prices are going crazy.and all the bull he did while he was in office is showing up now.big name co. shutting there doors,massive layoffs,the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS MORE OIL THAN ANY WERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.YES YOU READ IT RITE!if the tree hugger would mind there own.then AMERICA would go on as it was.as the economy RONALD REGAN has given us that we have enjoyed the last 12 years.so lets get oil production going in the U.S. and send the tree hugging socilist democrats back to russia and china.remember that AMERICA IS A REPULIC not a communist nation!so lets drill that oil and get to work!




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amen ford460. god i like the way you think. i hate tree huggers, im a logger and all they do is get in the way. Let the tree huggin basta%$s wipe their a##es with their hands. go bush and god i love fords

-Jacksland

 

i sure am glad to hear that someone else is on my side.you just keep cutting them down and ill keep hauling them to market.people forget that what made AMERICA great is INDEPENDENCE
! we need to use our own resourses and the heck with everyone else! AMERICA FIRST all others to the back of the line!

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