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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Question 302 Engine Temp.

Hello, I have a 77 F150 with the 302, new 3 row radiator and 160 degree t-stat. if its cool outside it runs around 160-170 on the aftermarket gauge. If it's say 95 degrees and I turn the A/C on it gets around 210-220 on the temp gauge. I have also checked the radiator temp. It is accurate. It has a fan shroud and everything seems to be working properly. How do I keep it a little cooler? I know that next summer when it's 125 degrees outside it will really run hot! Any secrets to keeping it cool???

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Maybe use an electric pusher fan that comes on when the AC is engaged, this in conjunction you your factory belt driven fan might help keep things cool.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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I have given this some thought. I have a high volume 10" pusher in the garage. Thanks for the advice. Any other ideas on cooling it down a bit?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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I looked at mine and didn't see enough room for a pusher. Even if there were it would require a great deal of grill disassembly.

What I found out about was an 18" fan out of a Lincoln Mark VIII (8). They're also used in Mustangs and such. Very big fan that moves far more CFM than any of the aftermarket jokes. Even the rigs with two smaller fans (very expensive) don't pull nearly as much air.

It comes with a shroud but is a bit funky to mount I hear, I think you've got to push some ties through the radiator and just pull it tight so it anchors against the cooling tubes. It doesn't come with a controller though. It has 2 speeds, you generally don't want it on until the engine needs it UNLESS the A/C is running in which case you want it on. You need a high power alternator too, it sucks lots of amps.

I wanna get one. Should make the AC run cooler at a stoplight too.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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Turbo, It looks like you tried the normal things. Now for the less usual. Are you running a high volume water pump? If that new radiator is a triple pass-3 row you might need it. If you do have a high volume pump and it's not a triple pass the coolant might be going through the radiator too fast. Got headers? Too much heat in the engine bay could be hurting you. You can run it on a hot day with the hood off to test it. If it is you need to find a way to get rid of the heat. The last thing is many early Bronco owners have a problem with air going around the radiator instead of through it. Make sure any extra holes in the core support are filled and air can't flow over the top of the radiator.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks for the info. I have used electric fans on other vehichles before however they really sucked up the juice from the battery. I really dont wont to go that route unless I have to.

Yes it is a 3 row radiator. The water pump is a stock one, well you know (aftermarket replacement) the coolant is fresh and clean. No headers, stock exhaust. Do you know how far the fan should fit into the fan shroud? should any of the fan be outside of the shroud?

Thanks a lot guys.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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yo can use a 4 core radiator, not run a thermostat in the summer and a chrysler 9 blade fan from a land yacht, there factroy flex fans... higher water mix in the summer in coolant since anti freez holds more heat than water... synthetic oil too every little bit counts..... bout all i know....
 
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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The fan should be more or less centered in the shroud as viewed from the side, so you should see 1/2 of the blade sticking outside the shroud.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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OK thanks, Mine is centered like you said. Half in half out. It has five blades. I'm thinking that a 7 blade might help, napa sells a heavy duty 7 blade for around 60 bucks. Will any others from the pic a part fit right on with more blades? Will the chrysler 9 blade be a direct fit? same size around?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Pushers are a much better idea than pullers in theory. But the pushers you're talking about from the auto parts stores are jokes for CFM. The Mark 8 fan I mentioned pulls 4000 CFM, more than any puller OR pusher will get. And the littler ones don't even cover a lot of the radiator so they can't do much at all.

I looked at the pusher for awhile, I never found anything that would fit in my '87 E150. There's AC and tranny cooler issues, the whole grill had to come apart, and still it looked like there was basically no room no matter what I did.
 
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