anyone in the San Diego area know a "tuner friendy" service dept?

 

and how about a dealer in the southeastern part of pennsylvania?

 

I don't know if they are still tuner friendly but when I had my truck in a couple of years ago to be reflashed, the diesel mechanic at Encinitas Ford told me that one or more of his service managers had tuners on their trucks and swore by them.

He recommended that I try one out. I didn't mention that I was already planning on getting either a SCMT or Predator

 

For Those who believe that Ford won't void your warranty if you use a programmer Look at the thread below $13,000.00 bill and not covered and read for yourself .

 

How about some more info on how programmers and/or boxes are undetectable?

I have been putting off buying one for this reason.


thanks

 

Thats because the tuner was still installed on truck when ford rep looked at it.

 

HE LEFT THE TUNER IN THE TRUCK! You might as well intentionally pull out in front of a loaded dump truck running 80.

No offense to you or anyone else who has asked this question, but frankly I'm not going to discuss the details of it any further. I have done so in fine detail in the past, but honestly I don't have the time anymore to write up a 5-page spiel concerning the subject. All I will say about it is this- If you use your common sense, the tuner will give you no problems. If you are an idiot, it will bite you in the ***. Just my opinion.

Ford has spent quite a bit of effort, manpower, and money on trying to "hunt" down users of the tuners and fuel boxes. Presently, with the hardware configuration FMC has in the truck now, theres just no sure-fire way for them to do so. This may very well change in 07, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it do just that...but if it can be made, it can be ripped apart and reassembled to your liking

I can tell you first hand what you CAN get away with if you are so-minded; I'm not saying its right or wrong but if there is a will, there is a way. There will always be a war going on between Ford, those who mod, and those who don't mod. Pick a side and fight.



EPDP99, I got your PM and I'll get back to you tonight.

 

Nothing personal, Matt, but it seems to me ever since you had your negative "encounter" with a tuner, you have made it your mission to go around and hunt the whole "mod" idea like it is in-season with no bag limit.

 

Exactly.

It's a user problem, and now they need someone to blame it on.

This is purely a common sense thing.....

Some dealers like to look for a scapegoat if the truck has any issues, so don't give them one.

Service advisors are PAID to make Ford money and (just as important), SAVE them money...but they can't shoot a gun that isn't loaded.
If the truck is stock, they HAVE to fix it.....so take the program out before you go to the dealer.

 

None taken but guys have been known to preach how great programmers are. I think both sides should be said and let whoever make their own decision . There are plenty of warning lables all over these trucks but people act like they didn't know it COULD happen. You play you pay enought said

 

No offense to you or anyone else who has asked this question, but frankly I'm not going to discuss the details of it any further. I have done so in fine detail in the past, but honestly I don't have the time anymore to write up a 5-page spiel concerning the subject. All I will say about it is this- If you use your common sense, the tuner will give you no problems. If you are an idiot, it will bite you in the ***. Just my opinion.

Ford has spent quite a bit of effort, manpower, and money on trying to "hunt" down users of the tuners and fuel boxes. Presently, with the hardware configuration FMC has in the truck now, theres just no sure-fire way for them to do so. This may very well change in 07, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it do just that...but if it can be made, it can be ripped apart and reassembled to your liking

I can tell you first hand what you CAN get away with if you are so-minded; I'm not saying its right or wrong but if there is a will, there is a way. There will always be a war going on between Ford, those who mod, and those who don't mod. Pick a side and fight.


No offense taken. I am not looking for a five page answer. Just the facts.....

All I have to do is to restore the stock program, remove the programmer and disconnect the batteries for awhile????

 

You don't even have to disconnect the batteries. Just drive it for a couple days with the stock tune. Don't put on stickers, or leave the tuner or user's guide laying around in the truck...ammunition and suspision.

Mine has gauges on it and scratch marks where I plug in the SCMT. My advisor uses a tuner on his truck but does not condone the use of others. Its a don't ask don't tell game with a lot of these guys.

I've had a great time with mine and would recommed it to anyone, but with a new truck on the way I need to sell my 2004. So I am thinking of detunin the truck to avoid any possible damage that would put a damper on my plans. Mainly a car accident or tranny trouble. The tuners can speed em up but it can't slow em down.

Part of the reason I'm getting a new 06 is because I'm afraid the 07 will be monitoring me.

 

Not really even any point in disconnecting the batteries after you re-flash, but it is a good idea to flash back to stock, then reload the aftermarket program and flash back to stock again without starting the truck. I have seen a few rare instances of odd bits of code becoming hung; this will ensure against it.

Also, a very key point is to drive the truck a few hundred miles, if possible, before taking it in for service. This isn't always an option but will work in your advantage if it is, especially if you are using an inline fuel module.

 

There are certain codes that are 'usually' thrown by tuners (and/or the way people drive when tuned ). If the stored code is there, but a repair has not been done, they can 'guess' at a tuner having been used, but can't prove it.

Simple solution, revert to stock, check for stored codes, dump the codes by disconnecting the battery, reconnect and check that no codes (other than what may reappear due to the problem you are taking it to the dealer for) and they have NO way of knowing that it was ever tuned.

As posted before, that may not work on future years, but for anything '06 and less no trace will be left.

BTW... Don't forget to leave the tuner or chip AT HOME, if they see it laying in the truck, you're screwed (unless it is a mod friendly dealer)

 

Thanks for the information guys.