Any Ideas about ball joint
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Any Ideas about ball joint
I just had to replace a brand new balljoint because it detached from the spindle the bolt came off and of course everything else colapsed.Anyway
after examineing the old joint it appears the integrity of the groves where
flattened to the point the bolt would no longer hold.This occured on the lower portion only not the upper.Any idea what would cause this ?.I am deathly affraid itwill happen again except this time at high speed.The allignment was good all steering seems stable.. thanks.
Poorly made bad metal ?
after examineing the old joint it appears the integrity of the groves where
flattened to the point the bolt would no longer hold.This occured on the lower portion only not the upper.Any idea what would cause this ?.I am deathly affraid itwill happen again except this time at high speed.The allignment was good all steering seems stable.. thanks.
Poorly made bad metal ?
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there is a torque I forget right off 80 I think.Yes the pin is above the castle.How I could tell it was moving the head was facing me now the tail end faces me.But I put marking paint to see if it moves and so far no.I readjusted the the nut to accomidate
the pin.And so far no turning.I don,t understand why it turns at all.
thanks
the pin.And so far no turning.I don,t understand why it turns at all.
thanks
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me either, that makes no sense. but the aero is a strange gal. the proper torque shouldn't have put the castle below the pin...this almost sounds like unusual wear or possibly the wrong ball joint replacement part? was there anything unusual about the taper, either on the control arm or the old joint?
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Just a thought. Are you using the right part? Have front end parts like spindles etc. changed over the years? Is there a difference between the 3.0 and 4.0, short or extended? It wouldn't make sense to change them for different models, but then again I've seen things that don't make sense before. Could a previous owner have installed some non compliant parts?
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The new balljoint does seem diff.from the old one but I think its bacuse of a newer part.The pin is above the castle and slightly moves now its as though the joint and spindle is moving everytime you turn the wheel..the nut wants to loosen..
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sounds like the wrong part man. The castle can necessitate a little movement once you get the torque set (the castle prongs or whatever they're called cna get in the way of the hole in the bolt for the pin) but what you're talking about shouldn't be possible with the new part. check it against the other side if you can.
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ok will do compare with the other part.So a little play is normal but not extreme ?I am just super sesative over this..because she detached after 30 days and well the frount control arm droped it was a mess...It is fixed now..thanks.
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Originally Posted by teg3
I readjusted the the nut to accomidate
the pin.And so far no turning.I don,t understand why it turns at all.
the pin.And so far no turning.I don,t understand why it turns at all.
The rule with castellated nut and cotter pin fasteners is that if the pin does not align when the nut has been tightened to the specified torque you further tighten the nut the minimum amount to allow the pin to fit.
A previous poster suggested looking for unusual wear. The tapered hole may have been enlarged by the old part wobbling around in it, possibly because whoever fiitted it unscrewed the nut so the pin would fit.
Originally Posted by teg3
So a little play is normal but not extreme ?
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Ball joints are differnet between the AWD and RWD models (and I think between the 3.0 and 4.0 also.)
Auto parts stores are notorious for giving you a part that they think might work because it will work in the other model. I have a feeling that they have been giving you the wrong ball joint, which is causing all these issues. (and have been mentioned here.)
Auto parts stores are notorious for giving you a part that they think might work because it will work in the other model. I have a feeling that they have been giving you the wrong ball joint, which is causing all these issues. (and have been mentioned here.)
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parts store counter switcheroo
several different model parts in boxes brought out searching for correct one and comparing to old part.
correct part found
but boxes and remaining parts switched.
wrong part in wrong box for next customer that buys by part number only.
new ball joints have to always fit tight in press in fittings and taper fittings
remember the old king pins? at least when they were loose, they wouldn't kill the driver/passengers unless they fell out.
several different model parts in boxes brought out searching for correct one and comparing to old part.
correct part found
but boxes and remaining parts switched.
wrong part in wrong box for next customer that buys by part number only.
new ball joints have to always fit tight in press in fittings and taper fittings
remember the old king pins? at least when they were loose, they wouldn't kill the driver/passengers unless they fell out.
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