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Do not use both as you run the risk of exploding the tranny. All you need is the Sonnax/Triculator kit and leave the Programmer alone. All of the programmers tell you to leve the tranny settings stock if you already have a tranny kit in- If you used both I believe the tranny would shift so hard that something would break for sure. I use the Predator tuner with the Sonnax kit and love it--