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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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Valve job

I just pulled those heads off my c8. I figure I need to make sure all is good before it goes in the truck and I can put some new head gaskets in. My mechanic friend suggested that I check the valves buy puting paint thinner down the valves and the should seal. they seeped a little thinner out, but also help most of the thinner. Has anyone ever heard of this. And if so could it be the springs not closing the valves?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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never heard of doing it that way but I don't see why it wouldn't work, and in this case I would say no your problem is not springs not closing the valves. If the valves and seats are sealing even 20lbs of spring preasure would keep them closed enough to prevent them from seeping (and even the wimpiest cam should have more than 20lbs of closed preasure) have the valves reground, and atleast have the spring preasures checked.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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I've heard of using alcohol (isoproplyl) in the chambers to check for leaks around the valves and seats, but never paint thinner and not in the ports.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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ive used all kinds of stuff to check valves for sealing i usually use carb cleaner or something like that that i can spray in. and there should not be any thing leaking around the valve.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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I just remembered that acetone will go thru smaller holes than gas or alcohol. Something to do with molecular make up. It would be a good choice.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Paint thinner won't hurt anything. Alcohol has water in it and left in there for very long will rust your seats and ports. Why not just use a little gasoline? Anyway if they are suspect then bust for a valvejob. Now is the time since the heads are off.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Paint thinner won't hurt anything. Alcohol has water in it and left in there for very long will rust your seats and ports. Why not just use a little gasoline? Anyway if they are suspect then bust for a valvejob. Now is the time since the heads are off.
Rubbing alcohol has water in it, about 70%. If you get the NAPA fuel drier it is 99% isoproplyl alcohol and has no water in it and most marine fuel driers also do not have water in them. Gasoline is extremely flamable and dangerous as a shop solvent.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Once alcohol is exposed to air it starts drawing water. It ruins steel and aluminum parts in short order. Alcohol is a poor choice of liquid to check valve seal. On the other hand it is an excellent degreaser and paint prep.

As far as gasoline being dangerous why is it when I run gasoline in my dragster I'm only required to wear a single layer firesuit where if I run alcohol I'm required to wear a double layer? Alcohol is a far more dangerous liquid in the shop, it's just as explosive and the flames are hard to see. A few cc of gas won't hurt anything. You could also spray brake clean or even WD40 in there. Both are just a flamable but so is solvent, spray paint, "acetone" (is absorbed through the skin and causes liver cancer) and most other chemicals commonly used in the shop.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hired Gun
Once alcohol is exposed to air it starts drawing water. It ruins steel and aluminum parts in short order. Alcohol is a poor choice of liquid to check valve seal. On the other hand it is an excellent degreaser and paint prep.

As far as gasoline being dangerous why is it when I run gasoline in my dragster I'm only required to wear a single layer firesuit where if I run alcohol I'm required to wear a double layer? Alcohol is a far more dangerous liquid in the shop, it's just as explosive and the flames are hard to see. A few cc of gas won't hurt anything. You could also spray brake clean or even WD40 in there. Both are just a flamable but so is solvent, spray paint, "acetone" (is absorbed through the skin and causes liver cancer) and most other chemicals commonly used in the shop.
True alcohol collects moisture from the air. But it isn't going be in the chamber for 3 week or even a day and shouldn't rust anything. also it's flash point is so much lower than gas and it's burn rate is so slow that it is a pain to ignite in the chamber. The fire suit thing has to do with the burning characteristics of the different fuel. Gas you can see buring. Alcohol and nitro you can not see it burning. So with gas you can see instantly you are on fire, with the others you can't. Actually acetone is safer than even WD-40, cheap rubber gloves solves and skin problems and you should be using them in the shop anyway. Gas has more hazzards due to it's vaporizing ability, which is actually why it is a poor choice for this test. Evaporates very fast and the vapor is very flamable. Also it ain't exactly non-poisonous.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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hey why not just use brake clean the non flammable stuff.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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hey why not just use brake clean the non flammable stuff.
Evaporates to fast.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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i always used carb cleaner myself, and if it does leak it only takes a few seconds to see that it does.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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The paint thinner is actually a good choice. It's only slightly lighter than kerosene so it's relatively safe to handle. There's certainly nothing wrong with using it.
 
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