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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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a/c question

Last week I took a 2 hour road trip. I noticed that during my trip the front a/c acted weired, the air was not cold as it should be and you could hardly feel the air coming out of the vents , even with 2 vents closed and fan speed at full blast. The rear a/c was working just fine. Has any one run into this same problem? Or somthing similar?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AF Mezkin
Last week I took a 2 hour road trip. I noticed that during my trip the front a/c acted weired, the air was not cold as it should be and you could hardly feel the air coming out of the vents , even with 2 vents closed and fan speed at full blast. The rear a/c was working just fine. Has any one run into this same problem? Or somthing similar?
I have something of the same. I do not know where you live, but I reside in Arizona. Mine will get hot at stop. I had my AC checked and the pressures were a little low ( 1/2 can) and all good to go. But when the temp is 114 and humity of 40, you just do not know what to expect. Not sure if this answers your question, but if anyone else has ideas, I am interested as well......
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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mine does the same thing. i think it may be a bad blend door motor? one moment going down the road it will be like a blizzard then almost nothing and its not cold. but turn it off for a few minutes and it works perfect.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
mine does the same thing. i think it may be a bad blend door motor? one moment going down the road it will be like a blizzard then almost nothing and its not cold. but turn it off for a few minutes and it works perfect.
So what do I need to do to check it out? Is there an easy solution?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Does anyone know about the blend doors, are they electrically operated or do they operate by vaccum?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Hey Guys!

There is a tsb for the problem you are describing. See below.

A/C - Intermittent Loss of Cooling at Highway Speeds
Article No.
04-5-9

03/22/04

CLIMATE CONTROL - INTERMITTENT LOSS OF
COOLING OR AIRFLOW FROM A/C SYSTEM AT
HIGHWAY DRIVES - VEHICLES BUILT PRIOR TO
3/16/2004

FORD:
2003-2004 EXPEDITION

LINCOLN:
2003-2004 NAVIGATOR

ISSUE

Some 2003-2004 Expedition/Navigator vehicles built before 03/16/2004 may exhibit an intermittent loss of cooling (temperature swings) or diminished register airflow from the A/C system during highway drives. Diminished airflow on drives of 30 minutes or more may be due to ice formation on the evaporator core. This condition is exhibited in hot and humid climates only. Temperature swings with strong register airflow may be due to unwanted cycling of the thermostatic switch. This condition occurs only when the rear climate control system is not present or turned off.

ACTION

To service, install an evaporator assembly-mounted thermostatic cycling switch and disable the TXV-mounted thermostatic switch, using service Kit 4L1Z-19E992-M. For vehicles built on or after August 2003, it is also necessary to order and install fastener W701696-S301. For installation procedures refer to the Service Kit instruction sheet.

NOTE TOOLS REQUIRED FOR PROCEDURE INCLUDE A 1/2" DRILL BIT AND A 1/2" STOP COLLAR FOR THE DRILL BIT. A SUITABLE STOP COLLAR IS CONTAINED IN MAC TOOL KIT GN5838. USE OF A STOP COLLAR IS MANDATORY TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE EVAPORATOR CORE.

OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: NONE

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME

040509A Navigator: Install 1.5 Hrs.
Evaporator Assembly
Mounted Thermostatic
Cycling Switch And
Harness

040509B Expedition: Install 1.8 Hrs.
Evaporator Assembly
Mounted Thermostatic
Cycling Switch And
Harness (Includes Time To
Remove And Install Center
Console)
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bornzo
Hey Guys!

There is a tsb for the problem you are describing. See below.

A/C - Intermittent Loss of Cooling at Highway Speeds
Article No.
04-5-9

03/22/04

CLIMATE CONTROL - INTERMITTENT LOSS OF
COOLING OR AIRFLOW FROM A/C SYSTEM AT
HIGHWAY DRIVES - VEHICLES BUILT PRIOR TO
3/16/2004

FORD:
2003-2004 EXPEDITION

LINCOLN:
2003-2004 NAVIGATOR

ISSUE

Some 2003-2004 Expedition/Navigator vehicles built before 03/16/2004 may exhibit an intermittent loss of cooling (temperature swings) or diminished register airflow from the A/C system during highway drives. Diminished airflow on drives of 30 minutes or more may be due to ice formation on the evaporator core. This condition is exhibited in hot and humid climates only. Temperature swings with strong register airflow may be due to unwanted cycling of the thermostatic switch. This condition occurs only when the rear climate control system is not present or turned off.

ACTION

To service, install an evaporator assembly-mounted thermostatic cycling switch and disable the TXV-mounted thermostatic switch, using service Kit 4L1Z-19E992-M. For vehicles built on or after August 2003, it is also necessary to order and install fastener W701696-S301. For installation procedures refer to the Service Kit instruction sheet.

NOTE TOOLS REQUIRED FOR PROCEDURE INCLUDE A 1/2" DRILL BIT AND A 1/2" STOP COLLAR FOR THE DRILL BIT. A SUITABLE STOP COLLAR IS CONTAINED IN MAC TOOL KIT GN5838. USE OF A STOP COLLAR IS MANDATORY TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE EVAPORATOR CORE.

OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: NONE

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME

040509A Navigator: Install 1.5 Hrs.
Evaporator Assembly
Mounted Thermostatic
Cycling Switch And
Harness

040509B Expedition: Install 1.8 Hrs.
Evaporator Assembly
Mounted Thermostatic
Cycling Switch And
Harness (Includes Time To
Remove And Install Center
Console)
Mine is a 1997 and has a very simular problem. I do live in AZ so it gets very hot with high humidity during the summer. Could this still be the problem?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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That sounds just like the problem I had. Here in Georgia it gets HOT and very humide. I hope that tsb is the solution. Thanks for all the input. I'll let everybody know how it turns out after I take the Expy to the dealer.
 
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