I guess there's no simple discussion here on the genuine pros and cons on these engines. It reminds me of the Mac vs. PC or Chevy vs. Ford nonsense.

It's a given that people generally get what they want...because they simply want it whether they "need" it or not. So after that's set aside, all that's left is how do the 2 engines perform? According to some here, they ain't a darn thing wrong with the PD. Ok.....whatever floats your boat. But if someone asks a simple question like: "Which engine do you recommend I get given that I need to tow a boat on occasion or someone else who needs to buy a truck to haul cars for his transportation business, it seems to me there's two different options that make sense. There's no point in arguing which engine is better....either an engine which is one of the most refined gas engines ever offered in a 1ton pickup, or the new Ford 6lit. diesel which has its own amazing stastistics. In the end, get whatever YOU want. But what kind of advice is it when it's nothing more than the usual gas vs. diesel drivel? They're 2 different animals.

If Ford had offered a supercharged version of the V10, I would have purchased that, even though I have no need for it. I may even buy their diesel in the future once the bugs are out of it.

In summary, congradulations to all who've purchased either one...and I wish you luck with them, something we all need with any vehicle/motor/tranny configuration.

 

i hope this dose not start a war here. both are great motors. depending on what you need your truck for . hauling cars on a dayly base. most surely the psd, a every now and then towing the boat, dayly driver that mom uses now and then for sure the 6.8 v10,
the later is my problem . the other half uses it also so mine with a v10 and i have a wife with the bseg of a super duty owner.

 

captchas...you started it I think a truck for hauling cars can have a V10 and be a great truck for exactly that. The V10 has higher payload and same towing capacity, so you *could* say the V10 is better suited (higher payload)...

 

Since the oil wars seems to have tapered off and no one seems to be squaring off about which programmer is best anymore, the only really fun thing to "discuss" is the V-10 vs PSD debate. Especially when you throw the 6.0 in the mix.

When you get right down to it most of us agree that they are all pretty ding dang good motors. If there was only one engine choice then most of us would still buy the Super Duty instead of the other guys.

Then there is the 5.4 Super Duty...well...now.............

 

Hey....My 5.4 will spank all of your butts......................and it was cheaper enough said ...Why anyone would want to buy a rattling box of marbles is beyond me 20

 

ace
i'm just trying to be unbiassed. and agree with you on what a v10 can do. as i own one. it does come down to when making a living with your rig as to what can make you the most with and at what cost. a car hauler could possibly run 100k in one year.the extra cost of a psd would even out in the added mpg's over the v10, but it will always come down to what each person likes and wants in his or her own.
again my personal thought is lots of miles driven diesel, short miles driven gas. woman behind wheel who knows we have several driving psd's in here and several driving v10's

 

This same topic has been beaten so many times it's not even funny anymore. A V-10 will do the same as a PSD. Just depends on how much you want to spend up front. 5.4 is a decent motor for light duty and if called upon, it will do some of the tasks of a larger engine...it just won't like it. Look at what was offered in terms of engines before the PSD was introduced and you would think how could people possibly pull loads with those engines. The trucks got it done and when the PSD was introduced it got better. I think people forget that many miles were traveled towing or what not long before the PSD was ever a thought.

 

Personally I think those threads should be locked down as soon as they get into name calling and such. However, I got a lot of good engine choice feedback from FTE members while recently shopping for my new SD.

Ya know I was leaning toward a V10 and was talking extensively to the guys on the V10 forum and to their tremendous credit they were honest and forthright and actually steered me away from the V10 and to a PSD when I put enough detail out there for folks to look at my requirement. That says a lot in my mind.

 

If the internet was available back in the day the guys preaching about the PSD would be replaced by guys with 460's and IDI 7.3's. If you compare the HP ratings of that era to today, it's a joke. Point is that whatever you have it will get the job done. Taking stabs at anyone without a PSD is just stupid and it usually ends up in a pissing contest. For those interested, do a search here, read the posts and make an intelligent decision out of the wealth of info we have here. Thats what this site is all about. And this is coming from one of those low lifes with a 5.4. Take it for what its worth.

 

i just got back from a week long vacation in corpus christi texas(new pics in gallery!).. Anyway on the way down there my dog V10 pushing 4.56 gears, hit a heafty headwind in the final streach w/ 27 ft trailer... it couldnt even hold 65mph.. slowing.. to 60 ish... i was pee'd off and floored it a time or two, never seen the rpms get to 4.5k and hold before that.... this motor can rev..... anyway i got to where i was headed(great campsite on the bay)... and called the nearest O'reillys and told them to order me the superchips programmer... i was about ready to just buy a supercharger... at this point i dont care about gas mileage.. I JUST WANT TO GO THE SPEED LIMIT! at least 70mph... anyway i got the programmer... on the way down i averaged 4.8 mpg... on the way home w/ programmer it got 5.6 mpg.. so thats improvment, though i have to run super unleaded... it did pull the trailer the speed limit better, there was an improvemnt running 3rd at 3.2k rpm for hours at a time... not as much of as noticable of an improvement i would like though.. id give my left(tennis) ball, to go back in time and get the diesel instead..... i have intake, exhaust and superchip on my V10 now, and yes my trailer is a new style widebody aluminum frame fiberglass...ie HEAVY( 10k lbs) toyhauler trailer.... i know the diesel would pull it better at high speeds... i looked on ebay tonight(just got home) there is a 6.0 engine on there for 6 grand... this would be a complicated swap id imagine.... ive done a few engine swamps before though.... hmmmmmm... BUY DIESEL people or be like me and wish you had...
JJ

 

I guess we all have diesel envy in a way........wasn't there a topic about this recently????.....hmm...........

 

rich
from the v10 gang that tryed to help you. we are glad that your happy with your choice. one good thing is. it's a super duty. some thing we all like. best of luck.

 

captchas i know what you mean. there are obvious advantages to each. i'm of the opinion there are advantages to each, but no real disadvantages if it gets the job done. i wouldn't buy a diesel, but i can certainly understand why others do.

 

You guys didn't try to help, you did, and I appreciate that.

For those that are not familiar with some of the discussions I was in it boiled down to a few key factors that sent me to a PSD: 10,000lb+ toyhauler being towed occasionally at as high as 10k mountain passes (justified a turbo charged vehicle), coupled with the lot-unavailabiliy of a V10 with a 4:30 rear end and preferable 6-speed. I was in the market for an 05 because of the rebates so ordering an 06 wasn't an option.

I'm really impressed with the V10's incredible reliability in 2 personal friends Mohos as well 1 friends SD. Great great engine no doubt about it. I see no reason for folks to be slagging on it, just depends on each person's need/requirements.

Cheers,

Rich

 

a double amen