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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Anyone know anything about lock smithing?

hey all,my father just aquired a fairly large lot of property in maine,got a real good deal on it,now it has a few buildings and a few gates around as well. All the gates are locked shut with master locks and some of the buildings are locked as well.I was look online at some basic lock picking tools and its like i was reading a different language! What i was wondering was whats the best tool for if i wanted to get into a basic door lock(not a deadbolt) and a masterlock on some gates i was looking at this one. Any ideas? Thats in advance!
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Door lock options:
1) buy the $20 "novice" pick set and and spend hours learning, hope you get em open, then take them to the locksmith for a re-key.
2) take a pair of channel lock #410 to the handle and twist, this will break the two retaining screws, and not mar the door much if you stay on axis.... throw these busted ones in the trash and go get new ones. (this will also generate some compression and will tear up a cheap door, use good judgement!)
3) drill the cylinders and open with a screw-driver, replace as in #2

Master (pad) locks:
1) bolt cutters
2) a moto-tool with an abrasive cut-off wheel and cut the shackle
go buy new ones: not cost effective to re-key a padlock
 

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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Ecuri has the right idea. Even if you pick the locks you still don't have a key. But if you want to try, the one you are looking at should work. You put a small piece of metal into the bottom of the lock and turn it slightly to give it tension. Then you insert the gun into the top part and click it a few times. It is moving the pins up to where they are even with the cylinder. It works pretty well.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Master locks are the easiest to pick. Even with a cheap pick set that you can make yourself - it's an under a minute job. In the link you gave, that "S" shaped tool that looks like an offset screwdriver is the important part. It needs to be thin and small enough to to fit in the lock, out of the way while you pick, yet hardened just right not to bend or break. Masters are the locks to learn on.

Check next to the keyhole and if you're lucky, you'll see a 3 digit number in black ink. You can take that number to a decent locksmith with the model of lock, and they can make you a key. Hopefully, all the locks are keyed the same and at least one doesn't have the number scratched or wore off.
 

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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Where do you live, I'll have em open in a flash! Hehe.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Howdy
Master locks are the easiest to pick. Even with a cheap pick set that you can make yourself - it's an under a minute job.
No kidding. As a 13 yr old I used a pick set to unlock a huge master padlock my brother in law was using to secure their worldly goods in a U-haul headed for Chicago. I was in in 20 seconds. Freaked him out good...he'd seen the ads where they shoot the padlock with a highpowered rifle and it didn't open.

13 yr olds are much more deadly... I like to brush up on my picking occasionally and get in touch with my "inner delinquent".

Door locks are much harder using standard pick tools, though I've heard the "gun" style makes it easier. Get a locksmith for what the boltcutters or grinder can't handle.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Ecuri has the best idea. A pipe wrench will work wonders. Locks are cheap and as you have found out only keep honest people out.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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I guess not all of us grew up with a copy of the Anarchists Cookbook, huh...
 
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Originally Posted by Howdy
Master locks are the easiest to pick. Even with a cheap pick set that you can make yourself - it's an under a minute job. In
Yeah, no kidding. My record is 2 seconds for a standard masterlock.
 
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