Replacing frame rivets with bolts.
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I don't know if they still do this but Mack used to ream drilled holes
to the size of the bolts shoulder to restrict movement. Thats one thing
to consider making sure the bolt you use isn't that short that it is threaed all the
way.
to the size of the bolts shoulder to restrict movement. Thats one thing
to consider making sure the bolt you use isn't that short that it is threaed all the
way.
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Maybe this is the topic for its own thread but does anyone ever wonder why we create issues and overthink these things almost to the point of insanity? We say oh its an old truck and we have make it better, we have to one up the factory, or one up the guy who one uped the factory. In a restored condition these trucks are still capable of being operated safely on a daily basis in their intended capacity useing 50-60 year old technology.
Jeff
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Originally Posted by Earl
You got it Rick. If there was a way to squeeze a nickel out of producing a vehicle, Henry would have found it. I agree completely with your assessment.
I was just remembering what little I still remember. 
Anyway, talking about cost, the rivets that look so nice in the frame are just soft steel rods about 1 1/2 long or so, wacked off flat on each end. They almost look like lead plugs. The gun they shoot the rivet with is way to big to lift so it hangs by a cable attached to a balancer. The gun smashes both sides at once and leaves that pretty round head. I suspect that being smashed by a jillion tons of pressure work hardens the rods. Figure the cost of that short rod against a bolt, nut, washer......... And they really are Ford tough. 
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Originally Posted by JCPSME
Maybe this is the topic for its own thread but does anyone ever wonder why we create issues and overthink these things almost to the point of insanity? We say oh its an old truck and we have make it better, we have to one up the factory, or one up the guy who one uped the factory. In a restored condition these trucks are still capable of being operated safely on a daily basis in their intended capacity useing 50-60 year old technology.
Jeff
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Tee He He,
It's human nature, assigning meaning, extrapolating assumptions, and trying to understand how bad things happen to good people.
Then a lightning bolt cracks thru the chaos to knock the divining sticks out of some poor pagans hands and we're back to the drawing board. Xfordman was the reality check.
Quite amusing to watch it all unfold.
David
It's human nature, assigning meaning, extrapolating assumptions, and trying to understand how bad things happen to good people.
Then a lightning bolt cracks thru the chaos to knock the divining sticks out of some poor pagans hands and we're back to the drawing board. Xfordman was the reality check.
Quite amusing to watch it all unfold.
David
Originally Posted by JCPSME
Maybe this is the topic for its own thread but does anyone ever wonder why we create issues and overthink these things almost to the point of insanity? We say oh its an old truck and we have make it better, we have to one up the factory, or one up the guy who one uped the factory. In a restored condition these trucks are still capable of being operated safely on a daily basis in their intended capacity useing 50-60 year old technology.
Jeff
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The materials and processes used then and now are heavily influence by the cost of material and labor; especially labor. I don't think Ford was worried about what we would be doing 50 years later to keep these trucks on the road.
I believe the warranty was typically 1 month or 1000 miles, and the expected life was less than 100K miles and about 5 years.
I believe the warranty was typically 1 month or 1000 miles, and the expected life was less than 100K miles and about 5 years.
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