This has been a great thread. It's a pleasure to hear so many interesting and insightful comments.

 

I have a 13 yr old nephew that was told to hush the other night by his grandmother. He took the pencil he was holding and stabbed her a few times in the hand (that she threw up in front of her face). 13 too old to spank? His aunt wore him out and they took him to the hospital. This kid is on medication. His father is a drunk and maybe abusive. He was abusive to his wife for sure. The mother never spanks the kids but will yell at em constantly. So how old is too old and what situations warrent what. Everything is different and so are the kids so you can't really judge anything til you know all the facts.

I think anyone who enjoys spanking their kid is spanking for the wrong reasons. It kills me to just disipline my child of 4. I rarely have to spank him cause he's a good kid. I pray that holds true for a long time I can usually just get up or give him the look and he stops what he's doing. I always try to explain why he can't do certain things and not revert to my mother's 'Cause I said so'. And I always follow through with my threats unlike my wife.

What I hate is when the wife has told him NO and then she tells him again so I then get involved and then she backtracks and acts like I'm overreacting. There is no yelling or spanking but yet I'm wrong? This attitude is what makes these kids not mind.

I was out with my brother to eat chinese one night and his kids were acting up. (This is a constant thing with his kids) He goes to the youngest one and pops him in the head with his hand. I was like dude your in public. I talked with him later to see if something was eating at him cause it just seemed like he was ready to blow at them kids. Alot of their problems stems from the wife just yelling at the kids and never whipping them and when my brother gets involved its excalated to a bad point.

Most kids are an extention of their social influences and their personal behavior. Every kid reacts to stuff differently. Some kids will appriciate all they have while others think they should have more. Some kids are just born bad and some are born good.

Well I'll quit ranting

 

Sure is. This is comin from a fellow 18 year old. I just pray that Christ will be comin' back for us 'fore it gets too bad....they better have mud pits too....

 

Also... if the "spankin'" was done with a 2x6 it was more than likely abuse... but just for the record, a 2x6 does not necassarily mean the parent hit 'em that hard..


Ever see a super duty and a civic in fender bender at real low speeds? i have, was only a scratch on the civic.

But of course, the super duty, I mean, 2x6 was probably swung way too hard in this instance.

 

I'm afraid it'll be a long time before that happens. Just the way the world works.

 

too young? ha! in my senior year of high school i got "swats" for skipping class. I underestimated the old dean. That guy sure had an arm on him.

P.S. anyone who makes a paddle for a spanking is a rookie. My dad was the master back when i got a good whoopin. First i would sit there and cry while he looked for a stick or something in the back yard. That gave me time to think about how much it was going too hurt. and boy it did. But look at me now, flawless.

 

::cough:: flawless ::cough::

I got swats back in elementary, and our school still gives out swats too. They just have to contact the parent first and if the parent says it's ok the kid gets swats. If the parent says "don't you dare lay a hand on my child" then they get suspended for 10 days. I'm a good (smart kid that get's around the rules) that never does anything bad (haha) and never get suspended or swats.

 

anyone who makes a paddle for a spanking is a rookie.

I had Sister Mary Terrible for the first 8 years of grade school, followed by Franciscan monks for High School. My folks were the least of my worries.

 

> when exactly did things go to heck in a handbasket

EXACTLY - When Nixon started putting ketchup on vanilla ice cream?

Mid 70s. Though it was not all bad, we had Happy Days and Welcome Back Kotter?

I agree about the latch key kids or kids home alone. I have had more then a few kids come to my house to borrow my phone because they locked themselves out of the house and could not get in and wanted a parent to come home. Or were bored and hungry (only the mother has a key) waiting for the parent/s to come home and just wanted to go inside and sleep.

I think the worse thing about single parent (might as well say single mother) households today, is that the kids watch the kids after school or are left to their own devices.

Children need and want attention and I think basically want to earn approval from their parents. Even a spanking is attention. Though I think common sense is the thin line that divides discipline from abuse.

When my parents were kids (and me), if you loitered and caused trouble, the Irish policeman that grew up with your parents or uncle would certainly give you a boot to the behind to get you in line. Or slap you upside the head for being a fool.

Caught shop lifting or breaking property. Paddy's Size 13 fixed that quick. After begging the officer not to tell your parents, BOOT, you get out of here and don't even think about coming back because next time I am alone with you at the station you are really going to regret it.

Imagine the outcry today from a beat cop (if you have them anywhere anymore) doing that today.

 

I Am A 27 Yr Old Father Of Two Younger Boys One 11 And The Other 8. The Oldest From A Broken Marriage. I Was Raised In A Solid hard Home That Believed In Spanking. And I Would Still Spank Mine If Needed, But I Can That I Have Not Had To Spank Either Of Them For 2-3 Yr.s Both Have Very Good Maners, Yes Sir No Sir Ect. I Have Always Used A Hand In Spankings Unlike What I My Father That Used The Closest Thing He Could Get His Hands On. So I Fall Into The Middle Of All Of This And I Beleive That It All Depends On The Kid. I Was A Real Pain In The A** To My Folks. The Main Thing Is Not If The Kid Did Or Did Not Deserve It, Just Hope That He Turns Out Ok When He Is A Adult. And Hope That You Are Never Forced To Think You Need A 2x6 Or Anything Else QUESTIONABLE To Get A Kid Under Control.
Just My $.02