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I have a '98 5.4 V8 f-150 and I was wondering if it's worth the price of 70 dollars to get my fuel injectors cleaned out by a mechanic or Jiffy Lube. Is it really needed? or should I just buy the fuel injection cleaners at pep boys/autozone for like 5 bucks?
My feeling is that if it's running well then it probably doesn't need the injectors flushed. It won't hurt but probably isn't necessary.
I think that a bottle of in tank injector cleaner every once in a while is a good idea.
so what exactly do they do at the quickie lube joints to flush the fuel injectors? I forget what I saw them use at the local dealer, but it didn't look like anything special. I have a mark vii that I am doing the motor on while the injectors are out is there a good way of cleaning them?
You disconnect the fuel shutoff and run the engine till it dies (usually a few seconds). Connect the injection cleaner to the schrader valve on one of the rails. Turn on the engine and run til it quits. It works well when needed, but its a real moneymaker for the garage - I think you can buy a kit for $80 or so and the refill cleaners for $30-$40 or so. I'm with Dave, though - an occasional cleaner in the tank can work OK.
For one, Jiffy Lube doesnt actually do fuel injection cleaner like the way you think. I work there, its not as great as it sounds but it does work. We use a 3-step gum-out. We pour fuel injection cleaner into the gas tank. Then we hook up a bottle of stuff thats like industrial strength sea-foam to either your PCV valve or brake booster and let that run through. While thats running through we spray a cleaner into the throttle body and it cleans that out and cleans out the intake. I think it costs 49.99, I just did it to my truck a few days ago and it does improve MPG and it runns a little smoother, but its not like what your thinking.
Go get a bottle of techron and don't look back. Just put it in 2 of my vehicles both run alot smoother and the injector are little quieter, not enough to count though. Seafoam for the crankcase and through the pcv but it doesn't work as well in the fuel system. I got the Progard brand with techron a little cheaper and the regular chevron techron. The regaine? from I believe stp is supposed to work just as well but no personal experience here. Eric
I'm all for the chevron with techron. Used regularly with proper fuel filter changes and no fuel related issues in over 300,000 miles (several vehicles).
I run seafoam (about half of the can) directly into the vac line that I pull off the brake booster while the truck is running. I pour a little at a time so the engine doesn't stall, then drive the truck down the road at full pedal. You will see a big cloud of smoke out of the exhaust for a few seconds.
If you live in one of the Metropolitan areas where "reformulated gas" is mandated, then you will never need to worry about such flushing, or even need a bottle of Techron.
Reformulated gas has LOTS of injector cleaner added to it. The theory is that if the fuel systems are kept clean, the engines will run more efficiently, thus keeping the air cleaner. The downside is that a gallon of gas is not a full gallon of gas, it is part injector cleaner. Injector cleaner does not serve as fuel to take the truck down the road, so you are getting less than a gallon of gas when you are paying for a gallon of gas.
The upside to this fuel is that it keeps your fuel system clean without the need for added expense for such cleanings.
I don't know where all this stuff is mandated, but I know that it is in Dallas, Tarrant and Collin Counties in Texas.
If you're not in a reformulated gas area, a bottle of Techron in the tank will usually fix it up. As said by an earlier poster, the biggest advantage for such a flushing is for the shop to make money.
Once a year I dump a bottle of Valvoline SynPower fuel injector cleaner in my gas tank. Seems to work well, my F-150 has 120,000 on it, runs like brand-new and still gets 16 mpg.
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I have had three F150s and a Ranger over the years. One bottle of STP down the tank once a month, preferably before a highway trip, and floor it a few times in the passing lane....never had one of them expensive fuel system enemas, and never needed it.