Oil Problems, PLEASE HELP!!
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Oil Problems, PLEASE HELP!!
Monday, I had my oil changed at a local quick lube. I use them because of ROyal Purple. Yesterday, I was one the road when , unknown to me at that instant, the oil drain plug came out. I pulled into the parking lot at a baseball game and it quit on me. I tried to start it two times and then saw the trail. Later, I got a plug and 15 qts if oil and refilled the truck. It would turn over, but not fire. It acted like it wasn't getting fuel. I have contacted the quick lube place and my attorney (brother) to tell them after 4 days, I am holding them responsible.
My questions are does the PSD have some type of shut off switch that will engage due to a catastrophic oil pressure loss? If they have to replace the motor, how bad will that hurt me if I go to trade the vehicle on a new one? Will it EVER be right again?
John in Mobile
'01 4X4 Limited EX
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My questions are does the PSD have some type of shut off switch that will engage due to a catastrophic oil pressure loss? If they have to replace the motor, how bad will that hurt me if I go to trade the vehicle on a new one? Will it EVER be right again?
John in Mobile
'01 4X4 Limited EX
Chestnut
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the diesel engine when run low on oil does not run properly. the oil gets air pockets and it has something to do with fireing the injectors.
whats happening is it needs to build up enough pressure to fire the injectors.
how long have you turned it over to attempt to start? hope fully there is no engine damage thats a lot of oil to be down. hope this helps.
whats happening is it needs to build up enough pressure to fire the injectors.
how long have you turned it over to attempt to start? hope fully there is no engine damage thats a lot of oil to be down. hope this helps.
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If it were my truck, I would have it at a Ford dealership. I would have them pull the oil and filter out of it and containerize it for lab analysis. I would then have Ford sign off on wether there is any damage to the engine. Diesels don't last long, seconds only, without lubrication. Too tight and too much compression causes damage quick. For a lab recommendation for the oil and filter, try Blackstone or Butler CAT. Send a letter with full explanation as to the circumstances. Make sure to have a particle count done and if they suspect something, have a ferrography test done. Ferrography ain't a cheap test but it will tell you exactly the wear metals and where they come from. Hopefully, the Ford dealership will tell you that all is fine. Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by Flash
If it were my truck, I would have it at a Ford dealership. I would have them pull the oil and filter out of it and containerize it for lab analysis. I would then have Ford sign off on wether there is any damage to the engine. Diesels don't last long, seconds only, without lubrication. Too tight and too much compression causes damage quick. For a lab recommendation for the oil and filter, try Blackstone or Butler CAT. Send a letter with full explanation as to the circumstances. Make sure to have a particle count done and if they suspect something, have a ferrography test done. Ferrography ain't a cheap test but it will tell you exactly the wear metals and where they come from. Hopefully, the Ford dealership will tell you that all is fine. Best of luck.
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Update
I got a call from the local dealer Saturday. The bled the air out of the oil lines and got it running. Everything checked out fine. The truck runs fine. I am however going to ask for all my expenses back from the oil change location. This is a great testimony for Royal Purple.
Thanks for all the advise.
John in Mobile
2001 Limited EX PSD
Thanks for all the advise.
John in Mobile
2001 Limited EX PSD
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Wow....Stories like this, are EXACTLY why I decided years ago, to never trust anyone but ME, to do oil changes on my vehicles.
Takes me 'bout 15 minutes, to do this myself (and I need the exercise..LOL). And, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the job was done right.
Will
2003 Excursion 4x4 V10
Takes me 'bout 15 minutes, to do this myself (and I need the exercise..LOL). And, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the job was done right.
Will
2003 Excursion 4x4 V10
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Willald,
I agree with you, I change the oil on all my FORD's, there nothing wrong with getting to know them better. I'm sorry for his trouble. I hope all will be well with his TRUCK.
After all he his a FTE Brother!
I agree with you, I change the oil on all my FORD's, there nothing wrong with getting to know them better. I'm sorry for his trouble. I hope all will be well with his TRUCK.
After all he his a FTE Brother!
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I don't know what posseses people to go to a 'quik' lube. There shouldn't be anything "quik" about changing oil.
From what I've read, there's benifit to leaving the oil draining for several hours before refilling.
I can't imagine ever taking my truck to a quik lube. I take it to a mechanic I trust. I trust him because he gives good advice and follows instructions I give. I pickup my oil and bring it with me --- because I'd rather stop at the local performance shop to buy some royal purple than go to a subrate oil changing place just because they already have it in stock.
Geez. I don't even trust shops to look at my truck unless I see other diesels in the bays.
From what I've read, there's benifit to leaving the oil draining for several hours before refilling.
I can't imagine ever taking my truck to a quik lube. I take it to a mechanic I trust. I trust him because he gives good advice and follows instructions I give. I pickup my oil and bring it with me --- because I'd rather stop at the local performance shop to buy some royal purple than go to a subrate oil changing place just because they already have it in stock.
Geez. I don't even trust shops to look at my truck unless I see other diesels in the bays.
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This reminds me - a few weeks ago, I had to get my other car (Dodge Intrepid) inspected, so I went to one of those quik-lube places to do that (state inspection is all I'd EVER have them do!)
You know, that operation is set up so people literally 'drive-thru' and have their oil changed. I watched this family all sit in their car, pull into the bay, get the oil changed, without any of them EVER lifting a finger or getting out of the car!!!
I know this is probably usual and the way people do it, but I gotta say: How lazy is that??!! Never even have to get out of your car, to get the oil changed!! Man, we Americans have got so LAZY! No wonder, this nation has such an obesity problem. Ooops, sorry, whole 'nother subject..
I'll stick to changing the oil myself, until I physically can't anymore.
Will
You know, that operation is set up so people literally 'drive-thru' and have their oil changed. I watched this family all sit in their car, pull into the bay, get the oil changed, without any of them EVER lifting a finger or getting out of the car!!!
I know this is probably usual and the way people do it, but I gotta say: How lazy is that??!! Never even have to get out of your car, to get the oil changed!! Man, we Americans have got so LAZY! No wonder, this nation has such an obesity problem. Ooops, sorry, whole 'nother subject..
I'll stick to changing the oil myself, until I physically can't anymore.
Will
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I've stopped changing my own oil due to time constraints and that Wal-Mart doesn't sell Motorcraft oil or filters anymore.
My Ford dealer does all my work now. Heck for $23.94, it is well worth it to me.
I once took my Excursion to a quik lube once but didn't feel comfortable about it afterwards. I immediately went home and changed it myself.
My Ford dealer does all my work now. Heck for $23.94, it is well worth it to me.
I once took my Excursion to a quik lube once but didn't feel comfortable about it afterwards. I immediately went home and changed it myself.
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After I bought my 03 PSD I called one of the quick lube places to find out just how much an oil change would run me. The kid quoted me $43. I asked him if he was sure, that it was a PSD [not wanting to give him too much of a clue]. But he insisted his computer said it was $43. Needless to say, I've never even considered a quick lube place since that phone call.
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Just an update. Yesterday, the quick lube folks reimbursed me for my expenses. I did not have to sign any type of release, so if any damage happens in the future, they are still liable. I am sold on Royal Purple now more than ever. Working 6 days a week makes for not a lot of time to change my oil once a month, but a motor replacement for about $10,000 leaves me thinking I need to make time.
John
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Originally Posted by big315
Just an update. Yesterday, the quick lube folks reimbursed me for my expenses. I did not have to sign any type of release, so if any damage happens in the future, they are still liable. I am sold on Royal Purple now more than ever. Working 6 days a week makes for not a lot of time to change my oil once a month, but a motor replacement for about $10,000 leaves me thinking I need to make time.
John
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I can certainly appreciate/understand, that working 6 days a week makes it real tough to find time to change the oil yourself. But, if you can find the time, I tell ya, the peace of mind you have knowing the job was done right, is well worth it. I'd be willing to bet many oil change places would NOT be as quick to own up to a mistake like this, and you could be left with the huge expense.
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I'm not saying that I would advise changing your own oil. The fuel station I commonly fill up at is full service. However, having a shop that is fully willing to not only do the job, but do the job to my particular specifications (including taking oil samples for analysis) is what I expect.
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