AOD'ers please help.
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AOD'ers please help.
Hello all,
I tried posting this question to the tranny forum but had no responses. I guess I should have gone to my "brothers" right off the bat.
This question is for any of you who have installed AOD's in their trucks. I just got my Lokar kick down cable and tried to install it last week when I noticed that my TV (kick down) arm on my tranny is very difficult to move. Is this normal? I would think that it should move very freely since it depends on two very small springs to return it to home.
Any idea what the problem could be? I've never been inside an auto tranny so i wouldn't even know where to start.
I'm about 2 days away from getting the 5.0L rumbling so I want to get this problems fixed asap. Thank you for your help - Brad
I tried posting this question to the tranny forum but had no responses. I guess I should have gone to my "brothers" right off the bat.
This question is for any of you who have installed AOD's in their trucks. I just got my Lokar kick down cable and tried to install it last week when I noticed that my TV (kick down) arm on my tranny is very difficult to move. Is this normal? I would think that it should move very freely since it depends on two very small springs to return it to home.
Any idea what the problem could be? I've never been inside an auto tranny so i wouldn't even know where to start.
I'm about 2 days away from getting the 5.0L rumbling so I want to get this problems fixed asap. Thank you for your help - Brad
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I THINK I know what you are talking about, I had a similar problem. There is a "plunger" (for want of a better word) that operates off of that lever, that plunger can get tweaked if the valve body is not properly torqued. It MUST be torqued, in the correct sequence, with an inch pound torque wrench or it will warp. It only takes a couple thousanths. Hope this helps FF56
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I don't remember mine being hard to move. Certainly not "very difficult". I would agree with FF56, have you been into the trans? Anybody? I do have a recently rebuilt one in my shop , I'll test it for "difficulty" tonite. One thing to know about your Lokar set up, it probably will not pull the lever far enough back. I had to add an additional spring to mine to get the pressure correct. Joe
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If the valve body and TV are like on the C-4, it is possible to get the lever inside the tranny too far "out" (like negative throttle). I got a C-4 all the way in and noticed it was tight, bit the bullet and pulled the valve body out. Sure enough it was jammed against the underside of the valve body. If you haven't had the valve body out, I would guess something else is hosed up.
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SVOOOM, it should move with little pressure. I would sure look for why it is difficult, and what caused the "why". You are so right about this forum. What a pleasure to have these folks to inform and entertain us. Much more so than others I sometimes visit. Joe
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I have installed AOD's in two street rods and had to use an extra return spring on the Lokar cables on both cars.
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AOD Return spring
Concur with Lash. A return spring did the trick - two weeks ago I took my '59 fresh 302/AOD to a trannnie shop with exactly the same problem. Techs thought it was the valve block, opened and inspected, found nothing, and reassembled with a return spring and fabricated a new cable bracket to make the "pull" as striaght as posible . Works great, save $400 and try a return spring..
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Aod
I had concerns with buying the shift linkage on Lokar shifter and my AOD. Does the nostagia bracket and shifter come with cable linkage and not rigid hardware? This would help with the offset between shifter and linkage.
Tom
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Most cable shifters do not include a Ford AOD adapter kit. Interesting that they inclue brackets for C-4, C-6 and GM transmissions but not AOD. B & M makes one, part number 130-40496, so does IDIDIT. Both include a rigid cable bracket and reverse shift lever (use if your AOD was a column shift) . I used the B & M kit with a B & M megashifter - the rigid shift cable bracket provided didn't have quite the correct geometry and had to be modified. . Here's the text from my transmission shop invoice - "Throttle pressure arm was binding on the manual arm. Needed to remove the manual arm to correct. Fabricated new bracket, added return spring. Angle of shifter cable bracket was wrong. Adjusted cable Adjusted shifter cable bracket. "
Hope this helps. No digital camera at home, but if your problem persists, I can borrow one and take a crawl to get a picture of what was done.
Hope this helps. No digital camera at home, but if your problem persists, I can borrow one and take a crawl to get a picture of what was done.
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