Sorry if this is a little off topic, I recently purchased an '01 truck with the V-10. It has a little under 40k miles and the 410 rear end. Its a great truck but I just took it to the dealer to repair the door lock actuator at which time they advised me their is a reflash available for the engine. They want to charge $70 to do it. I know that with my other car, a Mazda RX-8, they have reflashed the car various times at no charge... is this common and does any one know of any symptoms I can explain to the dealer that will cause them to reflash the motor at no charge?? Also has anyone had the reflash is it worth it? Thanks in advance

 

I would be very leery of a re-flash if you are very happy with your current performance.

My 01 V10 had code IGW0 and it was a great code! many folks here got a re-flash to "cure flutter" and ended up with a terrible low powered motor.

Find out your current code should be a 1" square label inside hinge area of drivers door or you have to release the PCM main cable in the engine bay below brake booster and pull back the PCM in drivers compartment by left foot and see if there is a label on it.

There is a way to look up Fords current flash but it is a pain and I am out of town right now so don't have all my notes and links on this laptop.

Welcome to FTE casual!

 

Just picked upy F-350Sd, Lariet,V10, CC, Longbed, Daully friday..The ship weight on the invoice says 6405LB..thats a heavy machine..Am impresssed with the V10..very quick, very quiet.Will not look at the MPG readout till it gets at least 1000 Miles on it. I do not expect good MPG..did not buy it for good MPG..have a Honda for that..Got @10MPG when towing with my previous Tow vehicle (Chebby) will be a happy camper if we get that..Right now I can see the fuel guage dropping. Only got 85 miles on it....

 

Richfaa,

Is that a 4wd or 2wd? Just wondering. My Supercab F250 4x4 short bed weighs more than yours and I was wondering if that's due to mine being a 4wd? With me in it and a full tank of gas I'm up around 6800lbs.

Sounds like a nice truck-enjoy it!

 

I was hunting around on Consumer Reports site and checking out the vehicles they tested and not surprisingly, none of the trucks appear to do great on fuel. Heck, a lot of cars don't either.

Here are a few examples:

2002 Avalanche 4wd
CU's city/highway, mpg 9/18
CU's overall mileage, mpg 13

2004 1500 Z71 crew cab 4WD, 5.3-liter V8, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 10/19
CU's overall mileage, mpg 14

2003 Trailblazer EXT LT 4-door SUV 4WD, 4.2-liter Six, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 9/20
CU's overall mileage, mpg 13

Dodge Durango 2004 Limited 4-door SUV 4WD, 5.7-liter V8, 5-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 8/19
CU's overall mileage, mpg 12

Dodge Ram 2002 SLT crew cab 4WD, 4.7-liter V8, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 8/17
CU's overall mileage, mpg 12

Ford F150 2004 XLT crew cab 4WD, 5.4-liter V8, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 9/20
CU's overall mileage, mpg 14

Chevrolet S-10 2001 LS crew cab 4WD, 4.3-liter V6, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 10/21
CU's overall mileage, mpg 15

Nissan Titan 2004 SE crew cab 4WD, 5.6-liter V8, 5-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 9/18
CU's overall mileage, mpg 13

Toyota Tundra 2004 SR5 crew cab 4WD, 4.7-liter V8, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 10/18
CU's overall mileage, mpg 14

They all suck gas. The funny thing about it is the people who look at a big SD with a V10 emblem and make comments like "man, those V10's are pigs!" Ironically they may be driving a lesser truck that sucks damn near the same amount of gas...and they probably don't even know it.

 

boy did they hit the 4.7 dodge on the head. the one i owned only got 12 and it was in a dokota a lighter truck. my wifes liberty with a 3.7 v6 only gets 14. my v10 s/d gets 12 and its not broken in yet only 1k on the meter and weighs 7400 lbs.

 

From Consumer Reports:

Jeep Liberty 2002 Sport 4-door SUV 4WD, 3.7-liter V6, 4-speed automatic
CU's city/highway, mpg 10/21
CU's overall mileage, mpg 15


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It is a 4X2..that weight was on the shipping invoice I am wondering if it is a bit low.Haven't been able to find the weight figure on the Ford site...will put it on the scales later....

 

Yup, my sister and husband have an Infiniti SUV - gets about 15MPG on the highway, no load. My brother-in-law almost fainted when I told him I got 16 with my V10 with a motorcycle trailer and some load in the bed (and a cab-height cap) - trick was on that trip, I dislocated my shoulder and couldn't even move the auto shifter with my right hand, so I was VERY easy on the gas - it hurt too much to punch it!

My niece has one too, same mileage.

How many of those vehicles you listed are OHC? I know Dodge is all pushrod in their V8's, not sure about the Chebbies...

 

Hate ta make ya mad and make your choice more difficult there bud but you HAVE seen the Shelby Mustang, right ? 550 HP ? Aluminim supercharged 5.4 GT motor ? Sorry, Ken

 

I was making the corner to work this morning in my V-10, and I saw the price of diesel, $2.79 a gallon. I paid $1.85 for reg 2 days ago. Granted the word is higher gas prices are coming, will diesel go to $3.25+ ? At 30% higher will the oil burner boys have to get 21.5 to compare with my 15 I can get ? I know they CAN get higher, like me, typically I get 12-13. At $2.25 a gal I don't 'feel the thrill of my automobile' (to quote Freddie Mercury of Queen) as often, but unlike my buddy in his hot rod PSD/Banks, I still drive mine. Et tu Brute', Ken

 

Ken, good point. That left me wanting say heating oil has a lot to do with diesel prices, at least here on Long Island. Cold winters = higher diesel. So, diesel prices are somewhat related to the season. Gasoline is likewise, but seems to be higher in the summer when everyone is out in their car (or truck/motorcycle/jet-ski/quad/etc).

Something to think about, in the summer, the diesel to gas price ratio is more favorable But that still doesn't make up for a 200K+ mile capable motor with quick startup/shutdown, low maintenance costs, etc. And, seemingly, is the most efficient motor out there on the highway in the "big" breeds.

Compared to a Honda Civic at 31 highway (it's on their website) for a 2.0 16-valve VTEC, weighs only 2782 lbs and the smallest aerodynamic profile I've ever seen, my V10 at 6800lbs+ is pushing probably three times the frontal area and almost 2.5 times the weight, and gets only half the gas mileage.

This is assuming 31 on highway EPA estimate for the 2005 Honda Civic Si 2.0L VTEC, and my usual best mileage on highway with cab-height cap and 3.73 rear (auto), SC SB 4x4. Since EPA estimates are very hard to achieve in the best of circumstances, I look at 15 MPG real (16.5MPG once) as about 17-18 EPA. That drives the equation even further into the V10's corner.

I find it amazing that anyone calls these things gas-hogs. Just looking at the aerodynamics, the Superduty or Econolines should get much worse gas mileage compared to 31MPG for a Civic, yet I can pull 15MPG and others at least 12.

Notice I didn't mention the Honda Civic Hybrid which gets 51MPG max with a stick is about 1-200 lbs less than the regular motor, but at that 17-18 EPA figure to a 49-51 EPA for the hybrid, still, that 3 times the front-area comes into play again, and at 2.5 times the weight, the V10's 17 EPA would come to 42MPG, and I just can't believe anyone would EVER say the V10 is a gas hog.

art k.

 

I have that very same 05 Honda Civic that you speak of..Got @ 5000 miles on it. Gets 33/35 on mixed light city/freeway and 38/40 on pure feeway driving.Thats what I bought it for..Did not buy the V10 for gas milage..Knew it would be crappy..by todays standards 15,16,17,18MPG is crappy gas milage.Ye gods if I was looking for good MPG why in the world did I buy a 362HP v10 motor in a 6500LB beasty truck. I needed a good tow vehicle.The F350 V10 is a GOOD tow vehicle..MPG be dammed..What we all need to admit to ourselves is..yes..that big ole V10 in that big ole truck sucks gas..and so what..I wanted it and I bought it.No excuses...Need real good MPG...get a roller skate Honda CivicYou will love it...

 

I believe in the next year the government will mandate that the oil companies produce a diesel fuel that is lower in sulfur than what is presently produced. I read a post here at FTE from a fellow who worked for a major oil company who said diesel would probably increase .50 to .60 cents per gallon when they refine more sulfur out of it. It is hard to imagine how expensive shipped goods would become in this country if that increase does occur on top of the already inflated diesel fuel prices. If I was a person trying to decide between a gasser or an oiler, it might be prudent to wait awhile and see how this fuel issue plays out. Could be that these V10s could get quite popular if diesel fuel continues to be so relatively overpriced.

 

thanks keith . they sure have hit the real world this time. that jeep has never bettered 15 .but for now it beats a escape in its being a real 4x4 not a fwd with a rear axle drive unit bolted on.