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here it is.

 

Photochop and a joke...been all over the net and back.

 

My old next door neighbor had a Country Squire (what the Station Wagons were called) and it was a neat car.

There was a kid at my high school who lifted the rear of one and tinted all the windows, put slicks on, flowmasters, and headers, and that car would MOVE.......and it was fairly popular with the ladies as well --from what I heard anyway....

 

Looks like it could haul a bunch of grocery bags….SVT ... Supper Veggie Transport

 

i agree 120% with out shelby there would be no ford gt that won 24 heurs of le mans numerous time. there would be no daytona coupe wich won the 24 hours at daytona numerous times.no cobra there would be no viper he had a major role in the creation of the first viper. the man is a ledgend people look up to him who else is still designing cars that will take your breath away when you drive them.he's around 70ish i think ....pretty awesome

 

it also says on www.themustangsource.com that the cobra is not dead it comeing back out as a 2007 model and its simply going to be called the Mustang SVT because shelby wanted the name cobra for his use on the new shelby cobra coming out. this is soemthing that was posted on the forum on that site and i dont know how true it is. all i know for sure is that the mustang svt and the shelby are 2 differnt cars.

 

You're probably right, but I've had 3 Grand Marquis, now I have a TC. Maybe it's all in my head, but the TC is by far the BEST car I've ever owned. The ride, room, quiet and FEEL is superior to any of the Gr. Marquis that I owned. The resale value of ANY of the Panther-platform cars is sad, which makes them one of the best used-car buys out there. I've heard many theories as to why these cars depreciate so fast, but it's NOT because they're unreliable, short-lived vehicles. Buy one of these in nice shape used, and I'll bet they're about the lowest cost-per-mile vehicle you can get your hands on.

 

I'm not sure how this discussion arrived in this thread, but I agree about the TC's superiority. I have rented a multitude of CVs, GMs, and TCs. The TC is clearly superior, and it is a well known secret that a pre-owned TC, GM, or CV in good shape is a real bargain. The high depreciation is a tragic failure of Ford's public relations function. Also, perhaps if Ford put independent rear suspensions, more sophisticated shocks/anti-sway mechanisms, and more powerful engines in these vehicles, the public relations function would have an easier time selling quality. Imagine an SVT TC. The Mark VIII was a good start, but the styling was too "windtunnel" and somehow too generic to support a quality classic image.

 

my grandparents have a 1997 TC cartier they owned since it was new. its a nice car and lots of room. plus the fuel milage is great. but the depriciation is awful.

is the dealer you work for a SVT dealer??

 

What are the depreciation theories on the Panther cars?

 

Yup, for what good it does us this year and next.

1) People that buy these cars are EXTREMELY traditional, and won't buy a used car because they "don't want someone else's problems." They grew up in a time of 90-day new-car warranties and no lemon laws. Also, they've reached a time in their life when they can afford to buy new, and they want to pamper themsleves. Keeping up with the neighbors also plays into it, and you can't do that with a used car.

2) Ford flooded the rental-car and lease market with TCs a few years ago, and that does nothing for resale value when it comes time to sell off the fleet.

3) These are "old fogies" cars; the demand for them from anyone under the age of 50 is almost nil. I can sell a used Mustang/ Taurus/ F-series/ Explorer to almost anyone, but the market for a used Crown Vic or TC is very restricted. Kids will drive a piece-'o-crap Civic before they're caught dead in a nice Grand Marquis, even for the same price. (I once had a customer tell me that he "wouldn't be caught dead" in a Cadillac or Lincoln; only a Mercedes or Lexus was good enough for him. I realized after he left that, his last ride in a vehicle, on the way to his final resting place, will indeed be in either a Caddy or Lincoln! So much for "not being caught dead" in one!)

Like I said, it's not because these are bad cars, it's market conditions. Shrewd buyers get an awful lot of car when they buy a nice used Panther-platform model.

 

1956MarkII,

you are so lucky to be in NY because in march the new SVT mustang is going to be shown for the first time at the NY auto show on march 23rd

 

The new fad at the college is to get a CV or GM and lower them, put the huge wheels on it, put straight pipes on and tint the windows and have a 'thumpin' sound system in it.

 

Hey 1956MKII, speaking of image cars, take a look at Ebay item number 4530246802&rd=1 and tell me what you think. Can you estimate the value of this work of artistic genius? This must be the Mona Lisa of automobile design.

 

I've never seen all of that. But, having said that, I'm a year from my BA and I drive a 2000 Grand Marquis with 19" triple chrome rims, K&N FIPK, and tint. No lowering (it does have the sport package with air springs in the rear, though) and no exhaust--I think only 1 or 2 companies make kits for them. I think that most people out here in California go less for performance and more for "bling, bling".

Kind of funny, it's the only car that I've owned (aside from my Dodge that I use just for grunt work) that I HAVEN'T did exhaust work on. I had a 74 F100 with a 390 and dual straight pipes, 87 supra n/a with a straight piped resonator and a 50 series flowmaster, 87 supra turbo with 1 cat straight pipes, 1 high flow cat, straight piped resonator, 40 series flowmaster, and dual hooker headers 3 1/2" tips, and an 84 733i with a 70 series flowmaster.