Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Mercon SP Tranny Fluid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 10:02 AM
  #1  
psmith338's Avatar
psmith338
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
From: Parrish, FL
Mercon SP Tranny Fluid

It's time to service my tranny. I found a great deal on filters at Filter1, but I can't find the fluid anywhere but the Ford dealer & they want $4.62 a quart!
Any suggestions?
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 11:55 AM
  #2  
rstokes's Avatar
rstokes
Junior User
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham, AL
It's called GOTCHA! Swallow hard and go ahead and pay the FMC dealer's price because that's the only place to my knowledge (and I've checked it out fairly well) that you can buy the SP and any other fluid will ruin your transmission or at the least void your warranty, if discovered. Sorry, there's no shortcut on this one.
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 04:19 PM
  #3  
tn mac's Avatar
tn mac
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,052
Likes: 0
also there is no way to drain the fluid out of youe torque converter except the flush and drain system the dealer or trans shop has,without getting all the fluid out it kinda a waste.
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:56 PM
  #4  
fyrhog's Avatar
fyrhog
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: Calif.
Mercon

I wonder where the trany shops get Mercon?
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 10:12 PM
  #5  
keith58's Avatar
keith58
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Sierra's
fmc.

aftermarket shops buy from the direct maufactureres all the time
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 10:26 PM
  #6  
bdjupiter's Avatar
bdjupiter
Elder User
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Broken Arrow, OK.
Look up at the tech articles at the top of the page, then go to transmission and read up. I did what was indicated and changed mine this summer. It was easy and let the wife feel like she was helping by starting the truck and turning it off. I used Mobil synthetic and the truck runs and shifts like a champ and I won't have to do it again for quite a while!
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:25 AM
  #7  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
In Central Texas I found Mercon SP at a local parts house that is owned by Arnold Oil company, a local distributor.

The 30k maintenance only calls for a drain and fill and external tranny filter change. The flush is extra and not necessary. I did the drain and fill. It took 8.25 quarts. I know a local trans shop that won't do the flush.
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 01:27 PM
  #8  
turbohatch's Avatar
turbohatch
New User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
I know Valvoline has Mercon V SP in synthetic blend.I don't know the price but I hope this helps.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:02 PM
  #9  
Casey's Avatar
Casey
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 2
MERCON V is different from MERCON SP. You can't use MERCON V in a TorqShift without causing problems.
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:18 PM
  #10  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
Originally Posted by Casey
MERCON V is different from MERCON SP. You can't use MERCON V in a TorqShift without causing problems.
Casey is right on. Read your owner manuals.

Some transmission fluids may be labeled as dual usage, such as
MERCON and MERCON V. These dual usage fluids are not to be used
in an automatic transmission that requires use of the MERCON type
fluid. However, these dual usage fluids may be used in transmissions that
require the MERCON V type fluid.
MERCON, MERCON V and MERCON SP are not
interchangeable. DO NOT mix MERCON, MERCON V and
MERCON SP. Use of dual usage fluids in an automatic
transmission application requiring MERCON SP may cause
transmission damage. Use of a transmission fluid other than the
recommended fluid may cause transmission damage.
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:34 PM
  #11  
tn mac's Avatar
tn mac
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,052
Likes: 0
SBV45
If you dont do the flush how do you get the fluid out of the converter,there is no plug,seems kinda like changing your oil and not the filter to me.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:39 AM
  #12  
Casey's Avatar
Casey
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 2
There are two ways to get the oil out of the torque converter. One is the flush method, and the other is to take the torque converter out of the transmission and drain it.

I use the flush method. Pulling the trans each time I need to change the oil is too much work!
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:15 AM
  #13  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
tn mac,

You are right, the new fluid mixes with the old. Drain and fill is a recommended procedure. Both drain and fill and flush are shown in the service manual. There is no recommendation or cautions on mixing the trans fluid or concerns on not draining the torque converter.

I looked at the fluid on the dipstick prior to changing. It was still red and clear. I spoke to the manager of a transmission shop that I know and trust. His shop doesn't do flushes. He said on a new trans, he would be okay with doing a flush, but it isn't necessary. Just don't go any longer than the recommended maintenance period.

As for comparing the trans drain and fill with changing oil without changing the filter, you don't have the internal combustion process going on in your tranny. I got your idea, just not the same.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 03:12 PM
  #14  
tn mac's Avatar
tn mac
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,052
Likes: 0
I agree not quite the same but it gets the fluid pretty hot, and it also gets dirty, guess this is one of those times we agree to disagree. would that be a another time warp thing, ha ha.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 05:21 PM
  #15  
kb1aah's Avatar
kb1aah
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Question Transfer Case?

So what about changing fluid on the transfer case? I don't beleive it shares the fluid with the trans like some vehicles. What is the schedule for this? What type of fluid does it use?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:59 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE