Banks Stinger Plus Impression!!!
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finally the answer!!!
i finnally got a hold of a tech at banks, he said i need to find out if my pcm has been updated from ford and this will cause a communication error between the two.
so tommorrow i will get out the red brick or the mentor and see if the pcm module ID # matches what he told me it should be.
if not they have to flash my chip to match it for proper communication. now i am not ****ed(as long as this fixes it)
if it does match original ID# than they want me to send back the chip so the can check to see if the information was downloaded into it properly.
i guess it could be worse( if it din't run at all)
i want the power i paid for man!!
thanks guys.
so tommorrow i will get out the red brick or the mentor and see if the pcm module ID # matches what he told me it should be.
if not they have to flash my chip to match it for proper communication. now i am not ****ed(as long as this fixes it)
if it does match original ID# than they want me to send back the chip so the can check to see if the information was downloaded into it properly.
i guess it could be worse( if it din't run at all)
i want the power i paid for man!!
thanks guys.
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First, I'm surprised that Banks hasn't caught up with the rest of the world, and started writing four page programs on their chips. Everybody else I've ever heard of selling chips is selling ones that are interchangeable between trucks, as long as the trucks both have the same tranny. The box code of the pcm is irrelevant. If your truck is an automatic, either of my two chips would work in your truck. A four page chip replaces the pcm, a one page chip like yours merely enhances the stock programming, so knowing the box code is critical to the chip working.
It sounds like the chip is at fault here, and they're going to correct it for you. My guess would be that you'll see about 220-230 hp on a dyno. When you get a chance to get it on a dyno, report back what you get, I'd be interested to hear.
Good luck.
It sounds like the chip is at fault here, and they're going to correct it for you. My guess would be that you'll see about 220-230 hp on a dyno. When you get a chance to get it on a dyno, report back what you get, I'd be interested to hear.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla
First, I'm surprised that Banks hasn't caught up with the rest of the world, and started writing four page programs on their chips. Everybody else I've ever heard of selling chips is selling ones that are interchangeable between trucks, as long as the trucks both have the same tranny. The box code of the pcm is irrelevant. If your truck is an automatic, either of my two chips would work in your truck. A four page chip replaces the pcm, a one page chip like yours merely enhances the stock programming, so knowing the box code is critical to the chip working.
It sounds like the chip is at fault here, and they're going to correct it for you. My guess would be that you'll see about 220-230 hp on a dyno. When you get a chance to get it on a dyno, report back what you get, I'd be interested to hear.
Good luck.
It sounds like the chip is at fault here, and they're going to correct it for you. My guess would be that you'll see about 220-230 hp on a dyno. When you get a chance to get it on a dyno, report back what you get, I'd be interested to hear.
Good luck.
i would like to have it on a dyno, but i will need some time and cash to find one.
another tech finally called me just now and said that there is a slight chance that where it plugs into in the circuit board,there is a resistor that sometimes is dirty or becomes in the way of two of the prongs on the chip and do not make contact as they need to. sounds like a long shot to me, but if the code matches then i will pull the pcm again and check the connections.
luckily i am an L1 tech (on gas that is)and if i was just a regular dude that was doing this i would really be ****ed and think it was my fault on the connection or workmanship.
what brand do you recommend?????
i bought from banks because i did not want to hunt aroud as i usually do. then if i had a problem i need to call 3-5 different people to fix it.
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If you want a really hot chip, then DieselPower and TS are as good as they get, assuming you get it custom programmed. I'm in the process of getting my DieselPower chip programmed by the guy that has the reputation of being the absolute best. I heard of him on another forum, the one I hang out at the most. Once I get it back from him, I'll be able to assess how good the programs actually are, but the people that I know that run his programs can't believe how much more power he can squeeze out of a chip.
I'll be running my truck on a dyno in late February, and I already know what my truck does on previous chips I've had in it, so I'll know how much extra power he can get out of the chip. In talking to him on the phone today, he asked how much boost I can get, and how high my boost gauge goes. I told him that I can hit 30psi, and my gauge goes up to 35psi. He told me to not be surprised if I can't peg the gauge once the chip gets here.
I'll be running my truck on a dyno in late February, and I already know what my truck does on previous chips I've had in it, so I'll know how much extra power he can get out of the chip. In talking to him on the phone today, he asked how much boost I can get, and how high my boost gauge goes. I told him that I can hit 30psi, and my gauge goes up to 35psi. He told me to not be surprised if I can't peg the gauge once the chip gets here.
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banks seems to be built more for the general population, i think thats why they arnt making the flip chips, they set them up to add some towing horsepower but still make it for joe smoe to drive it and not burn it up or joe smoe's wife. hey quad is that the bill's chip your gonna get burned or are you gonna have twildman do it?
ive got a buddy that has the banks powerpack on his dog and my truck with the clamp mod, 5" ex, shimmed fpr, open intake, still spanks him
ive got a buddy that has the banks powerpack on his dog and my truck with the clamp mod, 5" ex, shimmed fpr, open intake, still spanks him
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla
If you want a really hot chip, then DieselPower and TS are as good as they get, assuming you get it custom programmed. I'm in the process of getting my DieselPower chip programmed by the guy that has the reputation of being the absolute best. I heard of him on another forum, the one I hang out at the most. Once I get it back from him, I'll be able to assess how good the programs actually are, but the people that I know that run his programs can't believe how much more power he can squeeze out of a chip.
I'll be running my truck on a dyno in late February, and I already know what my truck does on previous chips I've had in it, so I'll know how much extra power he can get out of the chip. In talking to him on the phone today, he asked how much boost I can get, and how high my boost gauge goes. I told him that I can hit 30psi, and my gauge goes up to 35psi. He told me to not be surprised if I can't peg the gauge once the chip gets here.
I'll be running my truck on a dyno in late February, and I already know what my truck does on previous chips I've had in it, so I'll know how much extra power he can get out of the chip. In talking to him on the phone today, he asked how much boost I can get, and how high my boost gauge goes. I told him that I can hit 30psi, and my gauge goes up to 35psi. He told me to not be surprised if I can't peg the gauge once the chip gets here.
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Originally Posted by barebackjake
banks seems to be built more for the general population, i think thats why they arnt making the flip chips, they set them up to add some towing horsepower but still make it for joe smoe to drive it and not burn it up or joe smoe's wife. hey quad is that the bill's chip your gonna get burned or are you gonna have twildman do it?
ive got a buddy that has the banks powerpack on his dog and my truck with the clamp mod, 5" ex, shimmed fpr, open intake, still spanks him
ive got a buddy that has the banks powerpack on his dog and my truck with the clamp mod, 5" ex, shimmed fpr, open intake, still spanks him
what is the clamp mod???
thanks man.
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clamp is the 3 diodes and the resistor to trick the ips. its like the 10k mod but it idles nicely. i think i beat up on his dog enough i think hes gonna sell it and get a 7.3 hes getting tired of soo much other stuff on the truck going wrong. interior is always falling apart and rear brakes, and other crap i always hearing him cry about. i can peg my 35 psi with only the clamp, with the fpr shimmed to 75. think my fuel pump is starting to get weak though time to go electronic system.
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Originally Posted by barebackjake
clamp is the 3 diodes and the resistor to trick the ips. its like the 10k mod but it idles nicely. i think i beat up on his dog enough i think hes gonna sell it and get a 7.3 hes getting tired of soo much other stuff on the truck going wrong. interior is always falling apart and rear brakes, and other crap i always hearing him cry about. i can peg my 35 psi with only the clamp, with the fpr shimmed to 75. think my fuel pump is starting to get weak though time to go electronic system.
or not a good idea w/ a chip already??
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got it fixed and it flies now!!
okay so i checked the pcm ID and is was a match, so i pull the pcm again.
i found that i missed a small amount of silicone on the circuit board.
cleaned it more and warmed her up for a ride.
much faster and soon as you mash it she spools right up to 30psi.
she will even spin right through 2nd gear if you stay on it.
cannot believe that the chip makes that much more ***** and makes the boost go up real fast too!!
thanks alot guys.
i found that i missed a small amount of silicone on the circuit board.
cleaned it more and warmed her up for a ride.
much faster and soon as you mash it she spools right up to 30psi.
she will even spin right through 2nd gear if you stay on it.
cannot believe that the chip makes that much more ***** and makes the boost go up real fast too!!
thanks alot guys.
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I'm glad you figured it out. Here's another tip.... Be sure to secure the chip in the pcm with some duct tape, so it won't vibrate loose. If that happens, your truck will run wierd, and you'll be all over the engine compartment trying to figure it out.
Don't ask me how I know.
Don't ask me how I know.
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla
I'm glad you figured it out. Here's another tip.... Be sure to secure the chip in the pcm with some duct tape, so it won't vibrate loose. If that happens, your truck will run wierd, and you'll be all over the engine compartment trying to figure it out.
Don't ask me how I know.
Don't ask me how I know.
i did that both times already, thanks for the tip man!
i know how you know this!!!
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