You can use any pump other than the ultra high pressure units all you need to do is fabricate am engine mount for it. It's just usually easier to use a pump and bracket system that matches the engine and adapt the hoses.

 

I can machine brackets to work with the engine.. I just thought there might be a set out there for the pump tp the 223.. Ho well.. does anyone have a good Pic of what the box mounts looks like.. some measurments would be nice also.. I have a CNC and CNL that I can make them with.. Just need some specs to work with..

 

Has anyone used a Toyota manual steering gear. would it work ok ??
If you guys make up the Flathead 6 226ci brackets let me know. I may be intrested in a set myself. How do you plan to handle the 7/8" wide fan belt the 6 has on it. If you went to a standard belt the bottom/crank pulley would have to be replaced.

 

I have the 226 and I am looking at a electric power steering pump. Chuck pointed me towards a donor vehicle Subaru XT. It looks like around 1986 Subaru started using electric pumps. The Toyota MR2 used one also looks like around 1991

 

The Toyota manual box works as well from what I've read and is still a significant improvement over the OEM manual box, especially if your box is worn, or you want to use a more modern column. The box mount is a rather simple affair composed of two thick square bars welded together in a V shape. I don't know if I can get a very good picture of mine or get very accurate measurements since it's inside the frame rail. I think the CCP catalog has a pretty good picture or drawing, there is also one in the Mid Fifty catalog. Maybe whoever it was that just ordered one could supply you with pics and measurements before they mount theirs?

 

All the places that produce kits show 53 up. Has anybody tried it in a 48-50 F-1 ?

 

I am ready to do the Toyo P/S conversion on my '55 F100. I have the steering column and box out of the truck. I will remove the column shifter since I am going to a floor shifter. I am looking for advice on adapting the original column to the Toyo P/S box. I have the kit from Mid Fifty with the centering bushing and the Borgeson joint. I was thinking about disassembling the original steering box to get it off of the column and then cut the steering shaft gear off. Has anyone done this already? Can you provide any do's or don'ts before I start?

Thanks

P.S. I plan to take lots of pics and post them in my gallery since there does not seem to be a tech article.

 

You can't get the box off the column by disassembly at least not if you want to keep the box, the shaft and gear is one piece. Even if you do disassemble it you will still have to saw off the shaft to use with the Toy box, so save yourself a lot of time effort and mess and just go ahead and saw the box off, hacksaw works fine.
I'd guess there is no tech article because it's as easy a swap as you can do.

 

I read someplace that some kits come with a template showing where to drill the extra hole needed to mount the Toy box instead of using the bracket. I'm concerned the bracket will push the box into the engine compartment and make a tight fit even worse. Anyone done this/heard of this.
Also, I understand i need to change the drag link to the '56 (vs the stock '59), and get the '56 ball between the drag link and steering arm.......can anyone confirm this.....also, the solid or heavy duty tie rod is suggested.
Thanks guys.....I learn a lot here!

 

That won't be a problem as the box mounts flush with the inside of the frame rail, even with the bracket. It does not add any width to the box at all...at least on the 53-56...I doubt there is a difference in this aspect for the fridge years, but I could be wrong?

 

Here is a link to a tech article that answers most questions and has pictures!
Toyota Steering Box Swap For 1948-1960 Trucks .: Articles

 

Great article...thanks so much...
Thinking I'll use another steering column (REALLY would like to keep the original...not doing anything to the appearance of the truck at this point...inside or out...i like that old, used look.., but want the added security the ignition in the column adds....i DO want to use the same steering wheel/chrome horn ring, so hope i can find a steering column the original steering wheel will slide on. Anyone have any thoughts on what columns the original wheel would work with. My brother thinks early to mid '60's Econoline, Falcon, etc...but don't know where i'd find one of those....
thanks again guys!!

 

I was the co-writer of that article, so I'll try to help you:
You can use the original column with fairly simple modification, but utilizing the mid wheel horn button will require a fairly expensive conversion kit.
To be perfectly honest the on column ignition switch is not any more secure than the dash mounted ones. Except for some of the newest chipped key switches, cars with column switches are bypassed and stolen in a matter of a few seconds. If anything, in dash switches may be more a deterent because of the "novelty" to the average modern car thief. There are other simple and more effective theft preventive methods.
AFAIK There are no other columns that would be a solution to all you desire, it's the way the OEM horn button works electrically that is the problem, sorry.
Here's a couple thoughts tho: 1. Think about this, how often do you actually use the horn suddenly as a warning when you are driving? Unless you live in a high traffic area it's likely to be very infrequently, and a separate horn button would not be much of a inconvenience compared to giving up your original wheel. or 2. The horn conversion kit for the OEM column is still comparable to the cost of an aftermarket column and would be the closest to giving you everything you want except the in-column I. switch.

Feel free to post any other questions or PM them to me and I'll try to help you.

 

wow...wonderful info...thanks so much...
I'm not as concerned about the horn working (i took out the old armstrong box and column last night......nice place for the horn wire......
ANYWAY, the thing i want the most is to be able to use the old, beat-up, cracked steering wheel.....do you think it's as easy to just cut off the old box and couple the old column to the new box?, or do you think there's any benefit to trying to find a newer column that the old steering wheel will fit to?...and do you think there are columns out there that the wheel would slide on where the horn ring would still work?..i'm a little nervous about cutting the old column shaft and putting a u-joint on it..and then is the old box junk?....
thanks again....wonderful info!!

 

Wow guys, this is a blast from the past. This thread was started in 2005.