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****** 36 do you happen to know what year the steering box and pitman in your pictures are? I have a kit on my truck but don't know what it came off of but it looks identical to yours.
 
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Originally Posted by willys36
As you can see from the pic of my bracket, it is about as simple as you can get. Don't know if that mounting point would work for a Ford; Looks like the angle of the steering column forces the gear to be thru frame. Either way, it is about as easy and clean a fix as you can get.

I straigtened the Toyota pittman arm as you see in the photos but it is still a lot shorter (2"?) than the Chevy one was. I still get full turning radius with the shorter arm so no problem there. If you are doing a Ford, you should probably just get the after-market arm that is hopefully engineerd for the geometry fo the truck.
Do you know what year your pitman arm and steering box came from. I tried posting already but it wouldn't load hopefully I haven't sent a lot of them. I have one identical to yours but cant find and serial numbers.
 
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:26 PM
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Pyro12,
Welcome to the board.

The toyota steering box is a 1979-1985 Toyota 4x4. Basically from the trucks that still have a solid front axle. The pitman can be bought or fabricated. I just fabricated one for my truck out of 5/8" thick flat bar and the splined and ball end from the toyota pitman arm.
I have some pictures in this thread;
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rogress-2.html

Here's a link to another members gallery documenting him building a pitman arm;
1960 Ford F100 4x2 - Pitman Arm for Toyota Gear Box

There is pitman arems for sale on ebay all the time;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-1955-1956-FORD-1-2-TON-TRUCK-PITMAN-FOR-TOYOTA-POWER-STEERING-CONVERSION-/261201385333?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd0d0d775&vxp=mtr#ht_1362wt_789
I have drawings of the two types of steering box mounting brackets in my gallery here;
1949 Ford F1 4x2 - steering details


Good luck
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I have a few 1979-1985 Toyota 4x4 power steering boxes if anyone needs one, good working takeoffs, dirty, non leakers.......$250.00 plus shipping.
 
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Newcomer replying to an old thread, concerning willys36 post using a Toyota ps box.


Wondering if anyone has any input with regards to the angle at which it is mounted. I believe it laid flatter in the Toyota. Will this make the steering box off center when the wheels are straight? Or does it matter as long as the wheels turn stop to stop?


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Originally Posted by mach92bill
Newcomer replying to an old thread, concerning willys36 post using a Toyota ps box.


Wondering if anyone has any input with regards to the angle at which it is mounted. I believe it laid flatter in the Toyota. Will this make the steering box off center when the wheels are straight? Or does it matter as long as the wheels turn stop to stop?


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Actuall IIRC the box originally mounted with the pitman shaft near vertical in a cross steer arrangement. None the less, the mounting angle when used on our trucks is immaterial (except for steering column alignment) as long as the box is centered and the wheels straight ahead before the drag link then pitman arm is installed near vertical, it will give the same steering left to right. The F1 install mounts at a shallower angle than the f100 install, hence two different mounts are required.
 
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So there is no "sweet spot" in the middle of the steering box range?
 
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No, it's a recirculating ball steering box, it's the same from one end of travel to the other, but if you turn it all the way one way, count the input shaft or steering wheel turns to the other end of it's travel, then turn it back 1/2 as many turns before putting the pitman arm on it you will be right in the middle of it's range at straight ahead. It's a pretty simple deal, you seem to be way overthinking it.
 
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Thanks AXracer, good info. I like to make sure of what I am doing. My dad, who was a carpenter, always said "measure twice, cut once".
 
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Not a problem! I always tell my students: "The only dumb question is the one you have and don't ask!" Sometimes it's easy to overthink something making a concern where one doesn't really exist. Trust me, try it it will work just fine. You'll love the steering, just don't use a high pressure pump from an early land barge (Caddy, Lincoln, Imperial) or a low pressure one from a vehicle with a rack. Best solution: use a Saginaw "canned ham" pump, there is an inexpensive (< 10.00) easy to use kit to adjust the output pressure "just right" to your liking.
 
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I have to Saginaw pump now, where do you get the pressure reduction kit?
 
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Borgeson makes it, Summit sells it (along with many others)
Borgeson Universal Power Steering Pump Pressure-Reducing Kits 899001 - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

Looks like price jumped significantly (seems like Borgeson raised all their prices significantly not too long ago, liability insurance?) But still not too bad.
 
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Originally Posted by AXracer
Borgeson makes it, Summit sells it (along with many others)
Borgeson Universal Power Steering Pump Pressure-Reducing Kits 899001 - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

Looks like price jumped significantly (seems like Borgeson raised all their prices significantly not too long ago, liability insurance?) But still not too bad.
I think that I might have to consider installing the pressure reducer on my set up, what are your thoughts. I'll post a pic, this might help others if they are interested too.


Thanks Ax, and also the originator of this thread.
 
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I think that I might have to consider installing the pressure reducer on my set up, what are your thoughts. I'll post a pic, this might help others if they are interested too.


Thanks Ax, and also the originator of this thread.
I'd suggest trying it first, if it is too sensitive or not sensitive enough for your taste then adjust it. If the pump is from a non rack GM vehicle it is likely to be good as is.
 
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Pics of my installation, thanks all! Yes, it's a GM!
 
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