I don't mind helping my family and my closest friends but everyone else needs to get off my back and take care of their own and help their own. Yes I know that sometimes, the help is the only way but I know there's work out there and my family is full of those lazeabouts. My uncle's on disability (he is disabled) but he's constantly complaining that he can't find a job. When you haven't worked in 15 years and you're pushing 65 and disabled, yeah go figure. My mother is the type to quit if it doesn't suit her anymore and to heck with what it'll do to the family. I never got a job until I turned 18 but I'm less than a month from being 22 and I haven't ever moved home and I've never gotten welfare becuz I'm working. I don't want to pay for the lazeabouts that don't belong to me familywise. I've got enough to take care of in my family without worrying about how much is comin' outta my check this time.

Just a story that I think really stinks. It's along the same pizza delivery thing. My best friend was a sacker/carryout at a grocery store and she was always complaining how she'd carry out for people that paid with food stamps or lonestar cards, and take their food to a lexus. She just told me a few months ago about this apartment complex in our hometown that is full of welfare recipients. The took their benefits, somehow got cash out of them, combined everyones for the whole complex, and bought a truck in all of their names. It's well over a 30,000.00 truck and they're using their welfare benefits to pay for the truck instead of for food and rent etc. It's always good to know that they monies they're receiving is going to it's intended uses isn't it. That just disgusted me! Yeah it took a little inginuity but if they'd apply that to work, they'd have a job I imagine. Go figure...


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Another thing I get a kick out of is those toolios standing on the off-ramp with a sign begging for money. Now, if you are to that point, your pride is at about zero. So there should be no logical explanation why you can't get any job that comes along, regardless of degredation. Plus, anybody that can stand on their feet all day can sure as sin stand behind the counter at a gas station or convenience store. Disabled Vet my !
I am going to stand on the off-ramp with a sign that says:
"I work 50 hours a week, pay taxes, and still can't make ends meet. I am socially responsible, I don't do drugs, and I love my mother. Where's my handout?"
Would anybody in here give me money? Just curious...
BDV

 

I didn't mean government supplied jobs like all the jobs would be that way. But like the guy before me said, if you apply for wellfare we'll put ya to work doing somehting boring so you will feel the desire to go find a real job.

 

I think that working for your welfare check has nothing to do with Socialism or Communism. It's about accountability: if I am going to hand you money to feed your kids, and pay for your house and car, I will feel much better about it if you get out there and do some work in my community. There are tons of things you can do to make my life better, and you should feel obligated to do so since I am giving you the money to make your life better. That'll be the day!
It is important to note that the majority of welfare recipients have jobs and are trying. It's not at all like the stereotype of the typical welfare recipient is painted. Some people who work full time really do need a little help, and if it means giving them food stamps so they can feed their kids, I am all for that, especially if they are showing up for work, and for their kids. Heck, I work full time, and there are times where I am less than one paycheck from complete ruin. It's the way things are. And if I had kids, you bet your class I would have no problem accepting food stamps if I was in trouble.
BDV

 

not all people on welfare are milking the system...........just 97%.
put them to work, on road crews, cleaning crews, sanitation trucks.....etc. i know it demeaning, but watch how quick most would get a real job or a better education..get caught ripping off the system........go to jail....

Dan / ft

 

97%? Please direct me to the source of that percentage. If I were to guess, I would estimate it to be more like 30%. But I don't know...if 97% were "milking" the system, it would be not only more obvious but more prevalent, as more people would try to milk it also.
As far as those jobs being demeaning, I couldn't disagree more. Those types of jobs usually pay relatively well, better than what welfare pays.
Another thing: if you have kids and you file for the Earned Income Credit, you are receiving a handout from the government, so what's the difference, really? Perhaps that's not the best example, but it's true. There is little difference between poor parents popping out children for a welfare increase and wealthy parents popping out children for a tax break. Don't think it happens? Ask any rich soccer mom how much of a deduction they get per child, and if they qualify for EIC.
If it's such a big deal that poor people milk the system, it should really anger you how wealthy people milk the system, also. They do it in a much grander scale, and they are ripping us off a whole lot more than welfare recipients.
BDV

 

>but i have feelings that the people on here would settle for
>any work, as it seems the whiners on AOL are all liberal
>democrats.

HEY! I have AOL. It's the best I could do out here in the sticks!
It's really all I can afford anyway. I'm happy to just have a dial-up connection. So where do you get off...

Oh. Wait. You said that in jest as a general term to stereotype welfare recipiants who have an e-mail address. They probably have cell phones too. And PayPal accounts for Ebay. Big screen T.V.s, etc.
One time, I saw a homeless guy check his pager!:-X23

Man, If I could just get some of that government peanut butter...

I'm serious! That stuff is gourmet!

 

Grilled Gubmint Cheese sandwiches are the BEST! So are gubmint peanut butter sandwiches.
BDV

 

>Another thing I get a kick out of is those toolios standing
>on the off-ramp with a sign begging for money. Now, if you
>are to that point, your pride is at about zero. So there
>should be no logical explanation why you can't get any job
>that comes along, regardless of degredation. Plus, anybody
>that can stand on their feet all day can sure as sin stand
>behind the counter at a gas station or convenience store.

Absolutely!


>Disabled Vet my !
>I am going to stand on the off-ramp with a sign that says:
> "I work 50 hours a week, pay taxes, and still can't make
>ends meet. I am socially responsible, I don't do drugs, and
>I love my mother. Where's my handout?"
>Would anybody in here give me money? Just curious...
>BDV

This sign doesn't work. Unless you like people telling you that "You're number one" if you know what I mean. However a sign simply pointing in the direction you wanted to go, yielded a twinkie.:7

Seriously though, who am I to judge somebody like that? I don't know the real story in their life. I have mixed feelings when I see a person standing on a ramp, or at a truck stop. I think it's a shame when people assume this image of all welfare recipiants. Many on welfare have so much pride, that they carry themselves with more respect than most. You wouldn't even know they are getting help. (or in most cases too ashamed to ask for it even though they honestly need it) You've brought up some good points BDV. Interesting.

 

I remember my father telling me about when used help deliver food and presents for the Christmas Project at church back in the late-70's/early-80's. Some of these "people in need" would be drinking imported beer watching color TVs (back before my parents had a color TV) :-X23

 

Yeah our wrestling team delivered turkeys to a family with a big screen...........go figure. I wasn't degrading people with AOL, I have it, but I was on a message board there and all these unemployed people were complaining they couldn't find jobs, didn't have any money etc. Well i figure they must have time to check message boards they must not be looking too hard.

 

And when you come upon one of the guys at an offramp with the sign that says "will work for food" and offer him a meal in exchange for a decent days work, he'll tell you he prolly makes more money on that corner in 2 hours than you do all day.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. If they have time to be "surfing" the web, they aren't looking too hard are they? I know I have someone in my house that is just "freeloading" so to speak and it makes you wonder just how much time is spent looking for a job.