The following are taken from actual letters received by the Welfare
Department in applications for support (no bull)

1. I am forwarding my marriage certificate and 6 children.
I had seven but one died which was baptised on a half sheet of paper.

2. I am writing the welfare department to say that my baby was born two
years old. When do I get my money?

3. Mrs. Jones has not had any clothes for two years and has been visited
regularly by the clergy.

4. I cannot get sick pay. I have six children can you tell me why?

5. I am glad to report that my husband who is missing is dead.

6. This is my eighth child. What are you going to do about it.

7. Please find for certain if my husband is dead. The man I am now living
with can't do anything until he knows.

8. I am very much annoyed to find out that you have branded my son
illiterate. This is a dirty lie as I was married a week before he was born.

9. In answer to your letter, I have given birth to a son weighing 10 lbs. I
hope this is satisfactory.

10. I am forwarding my marriage certificate and my
3 children one of which is a mistake as you can see.

11. My husband got his project cut off about two weeks ago and I haven't had
any relief since.

12. Unless I get my husband's money pretty soon, I will be forced to lead an
immortal life.

13. You have my changed little boy to a girl, will this make any difference?

14. I have no children yet, as my husband is a truck driver and works night
and day.

15. I want money as quick as I can get it. I have been in bed with the
doctor for two weeks and he doesn't do me any good. If things don't improve,
I will have to send for another doctor.

16. In accordance with your instructions, I have given birth to twins in the
enclosed envelope.

 

LOL! Fact is funnier that fiction!

 

If i'm understanding that crap right that's purely sick. Just goes to show the illiterate are the one's on wellfare.......hmmmmm does this mean they deserve free money, because they choose to be dumb and lazy? I think not......I was just on a thread about the unemployment benefits being cut. Why do people who are unemployed have time to b and moan on a thread, if they don't have a job? Shouldn't they be out looking for one, or for that matter if they are so 'poor', and need their benefits so bad, but actually can't find a job, shouldn't they get rid of AOL? Howcome in the 20's and 30's during the depression people got off their *****, and wen't looking regardless if they believed they would actually find a job? OH wait because today's society is spoiled and lazy (and im only 18) granted i don't work too hard at my job (we only do business during the holidays), but at least i have one.

 

and the other idiots who say they won't go for a minimum wage job as they think it's not fair they have to 'lessen' themselves. I hate to say it but 9 times out of 10 if you get laid off, it's because you probably weren't doing your job as well as the other guy. Because their aren't many times when you are the only person in your department in a big business. They have to choose how to let someone go somehow....... No offense to anyone legitimately laid off, but i have feelings that the people on here would settle for any work, as it seems the whiners on AOL are all liberal democrats.

 

I remember a few years back when they were cutting welfare benefits and requiring the freeloaders to get jobs they all showed up in record numbers in front of city hall to protest!! hmmmmm if you can get off the couch and away from Oprah to march in front of city hall then you can go for a job interview!!!!

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 31-Dec-02 AT 06:53 PM (EST)] for those of you who have never read my thread "ever feel like sayin....your welcome" check it out, it might make you feel better.


the thing that bothers me the most about those quotes is the way they all seem to feel entitled to get money from OUR paychecks. they dont care where the money comes from, they just demand it for doing nothing but cranking out babies. even more disturbing is that they actually look at their children as a paycheck rather than a blessing.




read not to condemn but to consider

 

Let's all sing together now:
Looking for a handout, something free. Looking for a handout, from you and me.

Or how about the Federal Aid Song?

Jared

 

It really is pretty sad :-X23 :-X23

 

I support the Welfare System, because there are certain situations where people need help. I understand that. What the system lacks is a real system to get people off the rolls, and people to check up on how they are living. I delivered pizzas for 3 years, during which a large Section 8 (subsidized housing) project was built in my neighborhood. They ordered more pizzas than anybody! They would even try to pay with food stamps. My point of contention with these people was that they were driving much nicer cars than I was, and many of them had big screen TV's, stereo systems, and the like. And they all had like 4 kids. At the time, I was living on pizza in a one bedroom schlitzhole apartment I couldn't afford, with no furniture or a TV. Things are much better now, of course, but it's because I was willing to work for peanuts to make things better.
My girlfriend was laid off twice in 2002, by companies that gave their executives raises and had to cut payroll to afford it. Yet, when she applied for unemployment, it took so long to get the ball rolling she had already found another job, and thus was ineligible. My point: if you are collecting unemployment, you really aren't trying very hard.
I am going to start my own business so I won't ever be laid-off...
BDV

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 02-Jan-03 AT 01:31 PM (EST)]>I am going to start my own business so I won't ever be
>laid-off...
>BDV


That's the spirit that built America!


I am here to say that it works.

So what we really need to promote is a finite time on the dole. Everyone gets down on their luck occasionally, but we don't want to perpetuate a permanent hand out. Help someone for a fixed period of time, then shut off the fawcet, turn out the light, and stop the music. If someone can't support themselves, after a period of relief, then let their family take the burden. The taxpayers and income producers have more than done their job, it is only reasonable to expect the claimants family to pick up the responsibility from there on. America should not be a welfare state based upon entitlements. This will eventually ruin America.

 

>I remember a few years back when they were cutting welfare
>benefits and requiring the freeloaders to get jobs they all
>showed up in record numbers in front of city hall to
>protest!! hmmmmm if you can get off the couch and away from
>Oprah to march in front of city hall then you can go for a
>job interview!!!!

All that law did was make employers waste time interviewing and drug screening people who never intended to work in the first place. I interview at least three people a week but I only get 1 in 10 who actually work more than a week. I say if you need a welfare check and are pysically able to work but cannot sustain a job, you pick up trash on the highway fro 30-40 hrs a week and recieve a welfare check. "
There needs to be more discipline in the welfare system not sympathy"-Krosati

 

I like the idea of government supplied jobs like that, that way maybe our economy wouldn't sag so much.

I would also like to throw this out there. In a few months I will be trying to make it on my own in college. My parents aren't able to help me very much as I'm choosing to go out of state back to where i feel my home is, in Florida. This will mean I'll have to find a way to pay rent, work, and do homework while maintaining a good grade. Why don't we put these millions probably billions of dollars toward kids education. Granted many drop out, and their are many scholarships out there. But, it's a hell of a lot easier to get money for being lazy, than it is for an education and it shouldn't be this way.

 

>I delivered pizzas for 3 years, during which a large Section 8
>(subsidized housing) project was built in my neighborhood.
>They ordered more pizzas than anybody!

I delivered pizzas while in college and saw exactly the same thing! Tons of deliveries to the worst places and the most pathetic tips!

I now own my own company. I employ 25 people and do over $4.5 million a year in business. I have found that the people who succeed are the ones who put their noses to the grindstone, don't complain, put up with the "BS" (how many of you have seen someone quit a job because they thought "this is BS!!! and I don't have to put up with it!!"?), and slowly but surely advance. I have several employees like this. These are guys without much education but make decent money ($35K + a year) because they work! I do have an education and I WORKED my tail off for quite a few years to get where I am. On the other hand I have beed sued (unsuccesfully) by former employees who felt everything is owed to them. I'm not a hard guy -- I just expect people to try their hardest and give 100%.

I fired a man a couple months ago for not showing up to work. A month later he showed up with a DES (Department of Economic Security (read- welfare)) application. I filled it out, as I am required by law to do, but did so begrudgingly. A week later I put an ad in the paper for an $8.50 an hour driver. He called and said he saw the ad and wanted a "second chance". I said absolutly not! He got several "second chances" while employed by me. He will never, ever get anywhere in life.

The point is- I received no less than 50 phone calls and applications for that $8.50 an hour job!! For one thing this tells me that people are desparate for work and it might not be as easy to get that minimum wage job as you think! I had the usual job hopping riff raff but I also got laid off computer guys, CDL drives laid off from $20.00 an hour jobs, and house wives! I hired two average guys who looked like they wanted to better themselves.

Who are the BEST employees I have ever hired? Without a doubt- Mexicans who turned out to be illegals. They submit fake papers, work their Butts off while they can (far outproducing "Americans") and then disappear when I ask why the SS administration says their SSN doesn't match their names.

My advice to those who want more---> If you want to succeed you will. Just look at those who truly have less, lose the "you owe me because you have more than me attitude", and WORK!

When on two wheels-
FXSTC
Mesa- AZ

2003 F-350 V10

 

FXSTC, I couldn't agree more.
I have quit TONS of jobs, but not because I wasn't willing to put up with the BS. I always did it because the guy down the street was willing to pay me more money. I work hard when it's worth it; when it's not, it's time to move on. But the thing that remains constant is that no matter where I work, I pay into Social Security and Unemployment. And I always have a damn job; I have gone from $15.75/hr to $7.50/hr in less than a month, because of lay-offs. But I swallowed my pride and got a job that sucked until I could find one that didn't.
Now, I don't have children. But many of my friends do, and they all work and work and work to stay off the dole, and when I see them struggle, I do what I can to help out. There is no reason why any parent, even a single mom, can't work. Yes, daycare is expensive, but I think that's a much better allocation of my tax dollars than a check and a book of food stamps.
I could gripe about this shnizzle all night...
BDV

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-Jan-03 AT 03:16 PM (EST)]>I like the idea of government supplied jobs like that, that
>way maybe our economy wouldn't sag so much.
>
>
Why don't
>we put these millions probably billions of dollars toward
>kids education. Granted many drop out, and their are many
>scholarships out there. But, it's a hell of a lot easier to
>get money for being lazy, than it is for an education and it
>shouldn't be this way.

Truckfreak: Government supplied jobs???? Listen to yourself. Government supplied jobs are a direct aspect of socialism, if not communism. It has been tried and it does'nt work.

It is much more successful to stimulate the PRIVATE sector and thus jobs will grow out of a capitalist need, not a government provision, which is usually funded by the private sector taxes on income. Just look at Cuba, North Korea, China, and the former Soviet Union. All are failures with regard to government intervention in economic progress.

What millions or billions do you want in education? Right now, the State supplied education at the college and university level is dominated by the unions and administrations that require Professors to "publish or perish". This means that their first order of responsibility is to the administration and not the student. Too often graduate students teach undergraduate classes because the PHDs are too busy fulfilling their publication responsibilities. The government money is siphoned off into research and never sees the classroom. Research demands results, and the results must be what is expected by the govenment funding. It is a viscious cycle that shortchanges the students. It is enough to make you angry if not downright sick.

The best way to handle undergraduate school is to do your research, use the library, the labs, and all the other tools provided, that allow you to learn on your own. Schedule meetings with your instructors to discuss your work and get them to provide their guidance. Make sure you know what is expected of you to make the grade you desire and you should have no trouble at all. When I learned this, I made the Dean's List every semester. I also worked full time at night, paid my rent, and carried full time course loads. It can be done.