[b]when I Say Around Town I Mean Going To The Super Market Stuff Like That Not Loaded Well Maybe On The Way Home Me And Mom We Shop Big But For A 3500 Dually Its Nothing Same For The Ford F-350 Crew Dually Both Are 4x4's The Dodge Is Not A True Crew Cab So I Put The Plow On It Just Because Its Shorter I Have The Superchips For The Ford I Like It But Its Way To Fast For Mom She Hates It And Will Only Drive The Dodge With Out A Chip Or Tuner I Have A 48' Enclosed Trailer That I Have Pulled With Both Trucks And They Both Pull Well The Towhual Mode In The Ford Works Much Better Then The Dodge And They Both Get About 11 Maybe 12 With The Trailer And Befor You Say It I Take The Superchip Out Before I Tow I Don't Like The Way The Truck Shifts Its Way To Hard I Should Say That The Dodge Can Pull 3000lbs Heavier Then The Ford That Is Gcwr 20,000lbs For The Ford And 23,000lbs For The Dodge The Ford Has Been Flashed 3 Times And The Tranny Opened Up 2 Times The Front End Has Been Worked On 3 Times But Its Not Right Yet To Much Drift On The Highway I Have Been Asking Them To Ajust The Steering Box But No Luck Yet You Know How It Is They Don't Want To Open That Can Of Worms The Ford Has 21500 Miles On It And The Dodge Has 12250 Miles I'll Keep Up To Date And Let You Know When I Hit 150,000 I'm Just About To Start My Own Company Hauling Rv's And Other Trailer So I'm Sure I Will Be Putting Alot Of Miles On The Ford Very Fast The Only Bad Part Is I Might Have To Trade The Ford For Something Bigger Like A F-550 Or A Gmc C-5500 Sorry I Said The Here I Know Gmc Is A Dirty Word Here

 

Wow! I thought I typed bad. You just made my day.

 

Hows the truck, Todd?

 

I have never dealt with 6.0, so I can't say if it is good or not. I don't even know anybody that owns one. But i do know that international harvester has been building diesels for years, and they know what they are doing. If the new powerstroke has problems, keep in mind that it is a relatively new design, and is bound have some bugs in it. International's normal engine productions are for semi-trucks, which are different beasts entirely. but own an international pickup, along with my ford, and i can tell you that the ih truck is just as bullet proof as my ford. trust me, IH doesn't build junk. keep the faith, the 6.0 will be just as legendary as the 7.3.

 

If you think about it 22 seasons of great diesel motors from international. Barring a few bumps along the way in 03 the debut year off the 6.0. And you know what there are some old 6.9s chuggin along yet. 20 plus years later. And we want a cummins I dont think so. How many motors in twenty two years off production. Longer then the cummins in the Dodge by far.

 

Now what did he say. Can somebody tell me here. Not one period. Whew.

 

Have put 20,000 miles on my 6.0 over the last 6 weeks .... fuel economy pulling a 12,000 camper at 70 mph .... 9 - 10 mpg ...empty ...16 - 20 depending on the speed ... I lover her so far ...

 

I Did Not Know This Sight Was Just About Grammer.........how About This Stick Your Fords And Your Grammer

 

That attitude will get you a long ways around here.

Take offense to the comments earlier if you like; I didn't participate. However, it is frustrating when it is impossible to interpret what you are saying. How do you expect comments, replies, assistance, ect. when your statements aren't legible?

Lighten up, use some periods now and then, and enjoy FTE. None of it is difficult

 

So, I guess we shouldn't expect a Cummins in 2007 Super Duties.

 

I am retired from Cummins and my wife works there in corprate and there are no rumors of putting a Cummins in a Ford, they did put some in a few when they were developing the engine years ago.

 

Hey guy no offense intended. I think I uderstand your post there. Were just havin fun. Keep on posting. Were all in this together. No I dont think Cummins will be in a Ford anytime soon. The 6.0 is doin just fine. Still the no 1 selling diesel on the market.

 

Pretty good. I'll give ya a call in a few days.

*cough* Big Bend open road race *cough*

 

hahaz I wAs JuSt KiDdiNg

 

I understand alot of you cannot get past loyalty - and thats fine. I'm sure there are some who would still buy a Super Duty even if the only diesel option was the same TD out of a Volkswagon Jetta - and thats ok with me too. But I have to disagree with some of the remarks insinuating that Ford would be better off without the Cummins ISB. Whether or not anyone here would like to admit it, an ISB in a Ford Super Duty would spell the end of Dodge truck sales and knock GM out of the diesel market for a long time to come.

I've driven the PSD with torqueshift and it appears a masterpiece of engineering at first glance. The engine is a beauty. Shifting and acceleration are perfect. Dodge has nothing to compare in terms of drivability. Still I see lots of problems posted all the time in this very forum. I keep my mouth shut and simply read - but they are never ending (I'm talking chronic major problems, ie, engine rebuilds, replacements, buy backs, DSB's, to name nothing of the questions regarding TSB's, flashes and re flashes, etc) Now theres the torqueshift transmission issues, and buying a manual for me would'int work - I've heard too many complaints about lack of low end with them.

This scares me guys. Performance is not an issue - it's definately there. Reliability is another question. What would I look like if my big bad diesel went up in smoke with a blown engine with only half the miles my brother has on his Titan? Now Ford intends to stroke the 6.0 to 6.4? And add a twin turbo? Now we're getting somewhere.... even more complication. See where I'm coming from? If only all these major complaints would simply end...it's friggen 2005 already.

Even if the 6.0 had no issues. Even if it was as good as it could be - it would still not be good enough to put Dodge out of the light truck business, and certainly would not force GM to go back to the drawing board. The Cummins ISB in the Super Duty - and all the sales that would come with this combo - would do both IMO, and for the record - I like the Dodge trucks - but truth is truth.