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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Unhappy Kingpins

I thought that it was my balljoints that were bad but with closer inspection it looks like it's my kingpins. My balljoints don't move but my kingpins do. Anyone have any experience changing these?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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UH.... What kind of vehical? year? All 4x4 super duties (f250 and f350) have ball joints, not king pins.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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maybe their called something different on pickups than on semi's. I'll find out and post back.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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maybe their called something different on pickups than on semi's. I'll find out and post back.
You have a 2WD? 4X4's have ball joints. I am not sure about the 2's but they could easily run king pins because they don't have the front drive axle to contend with.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Some of the older 4x4's with closed knuckle axles use kingpins. 80's Toyota pickups spring to mind.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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The older Ford 2wds used to have king pins but they all went to ball joints the F-450 uses king pins to 97-98.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenworth
The older Ford 2wds used to have king pins but they all went to ball joints the F-450 uses king pins to 97-98.
What axle is in the front of the F-Superduty? Or did you mean the 4x2's?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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The 88-97 F-Superduty uses kingpins because its a non driving mono beam front axle looks like a scaled down medium duty front axle. I think the F-150 to 250 used ball joints on the twin I beam suspension somewhere around 87.

King pins are alot stronger but people neglect to grease them so they seize up and the bushing wear out. If people greased them regulary they will far outlast ball joints which I don't like too much

I grease my truck every month I have done that with all my trucks because grease is cheaper than replacing king pins.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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That's what I figured you meant. I thought for a second that maybe they used a closed knuckle 60 up front that I didn't know about.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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O.K., I can't come up with a specific name I guess, but on the steering nuckle there are 2 I guess you could call them pins about 1 in. diameter. 1 on top and 1 on bottom. It looks like the bottom one is held in by a split ring and the other one looks like it is pressed in. When I jacked up the front of the truck to double check the ball joints before I dove into that project there turned out to be no play in the ball joints but there was some in the heavy pins of the steering nuckle. Sorry, it would probably be more helpful if I knew the technical names. It's a 99.5' F-350 PSD 4x4 just as listed in my signature.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Super Duties don't have kingpins just ball joints.
 

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What you're describing are the ball joints. I don't know what you are referring to as ball joints however. Tie rod ends perhaps?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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O.K., this is the dumbest that I felt yet! After referring to the above pictures I got ahold of a Chilton and yes I am referring to the ball joints. I was calling the tie rod ends and the drag link ends the ball joints. Thanks for posting the pictures and clearing things up for me 82F100SWB. Sorry for the confusion guys.
 
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