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OK-here are my numbers.....
GVWR=7050
Front GAWR=3600
Rear GAWR=3800
Wheelbase=145
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?)
I remember the weight actually as 5220 or 5330, not 4500 or 5400 like I originally thought. I think it was more the 5220 number.
So...now that you know these numbers....( and again, the trailer is 3300 lbs, animal is 11-1200 and the tack and etc is 50.....)is everything still ok and not over the limit?
Thanks
GVWR=7050
Front GAWR=3600
Rear GAWR=3800
Wheelbase=145
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?)
I remember the weight actually as 5220 or 5330, not 4500 or 5400 like I originally thought. I think it was more the 5220 number.
So...now that you know these numbers....( and again, the trailer is 3300 lbs, animal is 11-1200 and the tack and etc is 50.....)is everything still ok and not over the limit?
Thanks
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OK-here are my numbers.....
GVWR=7050
Front GAWR=3600
Rear GAWR=3800
Wheelbase=145
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?)
GVWR=7050
Front GAWR=3600
Rear GAWR=3800
Wheelbase=145
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?)
your GVWR of 7050 is the maximum weight you can legaly pull. there is safety factor built into that and fudge factor room. Now what you can tow safely depends on your driving/ towing ability and common sense.
good advise for anyone to do at least once, find a certified scale and have your truck and trailer weighed
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Sorry to disagree but the GVWR is for the vehicle itself and not the tow rating. Tow rating for your actual vehicle is weight ready for the road subtracted from Gross Combined Weight Rating. Most manufacturers come up with a tow rating by taking the GCWR and subtracting the weight of a no-option base truck with a 150 lb driver. Excellent advice about weighing the tow vehicle, very few are as light as the manufacturer "claims" (who reads the fine print about base vehicle, no options, 150 lb driver and such?)
GVWR=7050 (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - maximum your tow vehicle should weigh with trailer attached and loaded for the road full of fuel)
Front GAWR=3600 (Front Gross Axle Weight Rating - maximum your front axle should weigh with trailer attached and loaded for the road full of fuel)
Rear GAWR=3800 (Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating - maximum your rear axle should weigh loaded for the road and full of fuel)
Wheelbase=145 (measurement from the centerline of the front axle to the centerline of the rear axle)
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?) it is probably the axle code that tells what ratio and limited slip or not.
The above ratings are manufacturers recommended maximum weights.
Would need to know what kind of vehicle and the GCWR (gross combined weight rating) to tell. What kind of tow vehicle and how is it equipped?
If you can get the GCWR, subtract your actual tow vehicle weight from that figure and it gives you the maximum the trailer should weigh loaded as heavily as you will load it.
Dave / Believer45
GVWR=7050 (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - maximum your tow vehicle should weigh with trailer attached and loaded for the road full of fuel)
Front GAWR=3600 (Front Gross Axle Weight Rating - maximum your front axle should weigh with trailer attached and loaded for the road full of fuel)
Rear GAWR=3800 (Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating - maximum your rear axle should weigh loaded for the road and full of fuel)
Wheelbase=145 (measurement from the centerline of the front axle to the centerline of the rear axle)
Axle=H9 (what does this mean exactly?) it is probably the axle code that tells what ratio and limited slip or not.
The above ratings are manufacturers recommended maximum weights.
I remember the weight actually as 5220 or 5330, not 4500 or 5400 like I originally thought. I think it was more the 5220 number.
So...now that you know these numbers....( and again, the trailer is 3300 lbs, animal is 11-1200 and the tack and etc is 50.....)is everything still ok and not over the limit?
So...now that you know these numbers....( and again, the trailer is 3300 lbs, animal is 11-1200 and the tack and etc is 50.....)is everything still ok and not over the limit?
If you can get the GCWR, subtract your actual tow vehicle weight from that figure and it gives you the maximum the trailer should weigh loaded as heavily as you will load it.
Dave / Believer45
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Those numbers are useless when it comes to trailering... what you need are: the engine, rear end, and model of the truck, and your user manual.
If you have a V8 and an automatic transmission, you can haul a two-horse easily. From those numbers it looks like you have a F250? If that's true, you shouldn't have a problem, and have PLENTY of tow capacity left over.
If you have a V8 and an automatic transmission, you can haul a two-horse easily. From those numbers it looks like you have a F250? If that's true, you shouldn't have a problem, and have PLENTY of tow capacity left over.
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Those are the numbers I got from the sticker inside the driver's side door.
I have a 2004 F150 Lariat scab 2WD automatic with 5.4 V8 and the tow package. I believe I do have the limited slip differential too, if that makes any difference. Personally, the users manual was useless. I read it and it told me nothing, except don't go over the recommended towing capacity....
I will try to find a place to weigh the truck and trailer. I will make some calls today.
So, the GCWR is from adding the weight of the truck, the trailer, everything in the trailer and my weight, right? I then subtract that from the GVWR and that is what I can safely tow? I remember the sticker said 8700 or 8900 towing capacity. Didn't know I needed a masters degree to figure out how to safely tow something.....
I have a 2004 F150 Lariat scab 2WD automatic with 5.4 V8 and the tow package. I believe I do have the limited slip differential too, if that makes any difference. Personally, the users manual was useless. I read it and it told me nothing, except don't go over the recommended towing capacity....
I will try to find a place to weigh the truck and trailer. I will make some calls today.
So, the GCWR is from adding the weight of the truck, the trailer, everything in the trailer and my weight, right? I then subtract that from the GVWR and that is what I can safely tow? I remember the sticker said 8700 or 8900 towing capacity. Didn't know I needed a masters degree to figure out how to safely tow something.....
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Originally Posted by Brix92
So, the GCWR is from adding the weight of the truck, the trailer, everything in the trailer and my weight, right? I then subtract that from the GVWR and that is what I can safely tow?
GCWR is the rating, not the actual weight. The GCWR should be in your owner's manual. It is not printed anywhere on the truck. GCWR means Gross Combined Weight Rating. It is the maximum that Ford allows for the truck, trailer, and everything inside both of those.
GVWR is Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. That is the maximum allowed weight that is supported on the truck's tires. If you weighed your truck loaded and with the trailer attached it must weigh no more than the GVWR, on the truck's tires only, not including the trailer's tires.
To get your actual tow rating weigh your truck loaded without the trailer. Subract that weight from the GCWR and that's the maximum your trailer can weigh.
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Originally Posted by Casey
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To get your actual tow rating weigh your truck loaded without the trailer. Subract that weight from the GCWR and that's the maximum your trailer can weigh.
To get your actual tow rating weigh your truck loaded without the trailer. Subract that weight from the GCWR and that's the maximum your trailer can weigh.
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Originally Posted by frty7ford
should read that's the Maximum tounge weight you can have on the trailer
The loaded truck plus the tongue weight cannot exceed the GVWR. The GCWR minus the loaded truck weight is the maximum weight of trailer that can be towed.
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For the earlier trucks (80's-'90's), Axle Code H9 is a 3.55 ratio with a rear limited slip differential. On F250's and F350's, the 5.4L V8 with 3.73 axle ratio has a GCWR of 13,500 lbs. Your GCWR will be less with a 3.55 ratio, maybe 12,000 lbs.
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Originally Posted by SoCalDesertRider
For the earlier trucks (80's-'90's), Axle Code H9 is a 3.55 ratio with a rear limited slip differential. On F250's and F350's, the 5.4L V8 with 3.73 axle ratio has a GCWR of 13,500 lbs. Your GCWR will be less with a 3.55 ratio, maybe 12,000 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Crash687
your GVWR of 7050 is the maximum weight you can legaly pull.
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GVWR is the max rating for the weight of the truck on both front and rear axles together. Only the truck axles, not the trailer axle(s). Trailer tongue weight is carried by the truck's rear axle, so tongue weight is considered in the weight of the truck.
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