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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Just to let everyone know, those are the correct part numbers, I ordered mine today. The total cost for all four was $118.36. Should be in by Monday.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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Fredvon4 - went back to the dealership again. Got a different parts guy and he found the fender liners right away. The front of my truck seems to have a liner but not on the back. When you drive on gravel and then get up to speed on pavement there is quite a racket when the stones come off the tires and hit the steel of the pickup bed. Gave me quite a scare at first until I figured out what was going on. Anyway I ordered the plastic liners for the back which should stop all the noise.
Did the hood liner fit right on your truck? The parts quy says only the liner for the 04 is listed, none for 05. He says the hood was changed and the 04 might not fit.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Jayc the Excursion and SuperDuty hoods have not changed in the last couple of years, in fact the aftermarket hoods all use the exact same under hood frame and the liner will perfectly fit the 05 trucks. There is no 2005 part number so it is OK to use previous year parts in several areas of the truck. In fact the dash parts and all the parts of the front bumper and grill are the only real changes. So all the other interior, cab, and bed parts are interchangeble from previous years.

Along with the rear fender well liners, I also had my thick bed liner material sprayed in the inside of the rear wheel well because I do a lot of gravel road travel and the plastic liners and thick liner material completly stop the tinny, loud, gravel road noise and paint damage.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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Fredvon, thanks for the parts # info.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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Hood insulation blankets? Door marker lights? Map pockets? Underhood lights? You guys are missing the real areas where Ford is killing the superduty. That stuff is nothing compared with things like the crappy unitized front wheel bearings and the garbage locking hubs that Ford is using up front. Everybody should be complaining very LOUD to Ford about this stuff. Ford Built tough? I don't think so. I wonder what else they have under-engineered in the interest of reducing assembly costs at the factory.

I have been buying nothing but Ford trucks since I started driving. Now I am not sure if the next one will be a Ford. They expect me to spend $40K and in return for that I get a 4x4 that will need to have its locking hubs replaced and it will need to have a Dynatrac retrofit front hub-bearing system installed. I would much rather pay another 2K for the truck than be forced to replace parts that previously lasted forever if maintained. The unitized front bearings really bother me. There is no way to do anything with them except replace them and they will fail. This is absurd! Cone-roller bearings virtually never fail when maintained at regular intervals.

Ford trucks have always been famous for the fact that they could be overloaded and they wouldn't break. With those unitized bearings up front, you are asking for a bearing failure.

Maybe it's not just Ford. Maybe Chevy is doing it too. I am sure that if one manufacturer can get away with saving a few pennies per vehicle at the factory, the others will follow suit. The ironic thing is that they are spending more and more money on the interiors and they are cutting back on the running gear of the truck. What a crock.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Thanks Fredvon4, I'll tell them to order the hood insulation. Might make it a little quieter.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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You won't see the unitized bearings until 2004. I would be surprised if any of your earlier trucks had front bearing failures because they use the tapered roller bearings up front. Also, I think the vacuum hubs are new to 2004. The 2005 is the one I would watch. You won't know until about 40K miles unless you routinely load the truck.

I was ready to buy a 2005 4x4 CC F250 Diesel but now I am not so sure. I am going to wait a bit and see how many more of the bearing and hub complaints appear here. I am hoping that Ford acts upon these problems as they are reported back to engineering.

The problem is that if Ford is doing this stuff, I can't begin to imagine what GM and Dodge are doing. I guess it's all just a sign of the times.

That 72 you had must have been one heck of a truck. Those things were way overengineered and they were literally built like a rock! They would go through anything. I really liked the 67 that I owned.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Do the rear fender well shields require drilling to install?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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The Super Duties have had unit bearings on the 4x4's since 99, same with the vacuum hubs on the electric shift 4wd trucks.
GM and Dodge also use unit bearings up front, theirs are cheaper to replace however, due to the fact that Ford kept a locking hub while the other two use a center axle disconnect.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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I dont think your are getting any sound deadning from the hood blanket, to many other gaps holes and open areas. The blanket was put there to stop heat from messing up the paint. Anyone with an old car pull it out? Big discolored spot on the hood from heat. Today better paint more hood to motor clearance and the air gap in the V from lack of a cam there and intake runners mean more heat disapation. So the blanket is no longer needed.
The under hood light would be nice though.
As for the fender well cover, mine always filled with thick mud then got pulled down and torn so I ended up yanking the dang things out.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I stand corrected. Thanks. Well, even though Ford may be using junky locking hubs, I respect the fact that they have retained the locking hubs in their design. When looking at the 3 manufacturers, I like Ford's design better because the locking hubs allow me to run around in 2 wheel drive without turning all that front running gear.

If I remember right, the Chevy S10 design used a vacuum motor to disconnect the front rear from the front right side driving axle when the truck was shifted to 2 wheel drive. This means that the front rear is still spinning around with the left axle shaft but the driveshaft isn't necessarily pulled with it. That design would put alot of extra wear on the front rear's spider gears. Give me locking hubs any day over a design like the S10 Chevy setup.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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No sir. about a 5 min install with 2 push pins for the top of the shield. Then unbolt the lower fender suport then reinstal the bolt through the shield and support rod. 20 min top s for all 4 with a beer between sides ;>}
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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daimon1054, Broussard USA as in deep Louisiana clay mud? Yep, I had a similar problem on a earlier truck and ended up ripping them out.

Here in Texas I spend a fair amount of time off road to and from my camping and hunting locations. The typical light mud and gravel/sand mix doesn't seem to bother these hard plastic liners. I coat them with a shot of WD40 before the trip most of the crap just slides right off out on the road.
 
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