How high for 32?
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How high for 32?
While I am in the market for rubber and suspension stuff and I was wondering what kind of height I would need to run 32'' or 33'' tires on 7 inch rims. I have 2'' lift blocks and I'll land coils or spacers next week.I figure 2 hockey pucks or a real 3'' lift should do the trick but second opinions are cool.any one have this setup or some good thoughts
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I had 31's on mine before I enlarged it, with the stock susp. height. Though it rubbed bad. I think 3 to 4 inch susp. would cut it, or maybe a 3 inch body by itself. Or you could cut the fenders. Thats if you wanted to keep the center of gravity low, otherwise he11 go for a big tall *** lift, just be careful when turning and in off camber situations. Have fun and be careful. P.S. think about gearing.
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I don't thing I.d want to g o taller than 33'' tires with stock gears(what are they 3.73 or something like that?)But I think 2 in the suspension and 2 in the body and I should get 32 under there. I would want to change gears and swap explorer axles under neath before I go 33+
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I think the stock axles would hold up fine with 33's, at least open differentials. But even with 32's I'd say you still need to re-gear bad. It just hurts you so much in the slow go'in. And if you have a automatic and think that it will be ok, possible, but you need to put a trans cooler up front about the same size as the radiator. In other words a big one. Because Making that torque converter work harder will make alot more heat to get rid of. Even with regearing, i'd still have a massive cooling system for the tranny. Though I don't know if you have a auto or manual. It should pull it along without a gear change, but along with the extra heat from the TC, it will also be harder on the bands, and clutches, shafts etc, along with the transfer case and drive shafts will have to take more abuse.
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I have a 5 speed and both diffs are open.I'm gonna upgrade the drive shaft any how.What ratio do you think would be a good one? I think maybe a 4.10 or 4.33,cause I still want some snap off the line but not pull 5000 rpm to do 60 mph.Whats a pair of gearsets cost anyhow?
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Well, I'd say at least the 4.10's to 4.56. Well with 33s And I'm gonna imagine your axle have the 3.73 gearing for stock and my stock tire size my door said was 195/75 R15 which is a 26.5 inch tall tire, so you would need at least 4.56 just to get yourself back to the same gearing as stock if you went with 33's. So please use at least 4.56. Then to the price, when I put my 5.13's in my TTB D44 on my B2 it was around 300 or 330 for the ring and pinion and master installation kit, however you would also need all the tools as well if you had planned to do it yourself and be very mechanically knowledgeable. So Id imagine 4 to 6 hundred for the gears and kits and then if you had it installed I'd say at least several hundred per axle. Thats really dependant on the shop though, I have had a quote of 2200 for one axle, gears included and as cheap as 100 to 150 for installation only. Depends on if they are trying to rip you, and its not easy to get it right so don't try it unless your positive you can do it. Hope that helped.
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man, figuring that out for you made me realize I am running 100 rpm less than I was stock with stock tires. Thats not good. 100 Isn't really noticable, but dang. I have 5.13's with 39.5 or 40s or whatever you prefer, I call them 40's any other tire manufacturer would. Anyways, I'd really go 5.13 with 33s or 4.56 with 32 or 31s. It really wouldn't hurt you, hold on I'll check what your RPM would be at 60. At 60 it would be 2507 in Overdrive, at 75 it would be 3134. So very liveable to me, and would be alot peppier. But 4.56 would be real close to stock, either way, but if you off road much or want more pep, run 5.13's. Now I think I'm gonna go pull the 302 out because I'm mad. Good luck.
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Thanks for the insight..Give me something to think about for a week cause I want tires before Pro Comp's 4 for 3 sale runs out on saturday.My biggest concer is with the 33''s.I'm a little worried they'll pound the snot out of my axles and I'll be lame off of the line,While they are only marginally bigger thAN a 32.Every bit counts.I guess cause I'm lamenting over them,I ought to go mit the 32,still plenty tall and cool for a draily driver 
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33's will be fine..the major considering factor would be regearing. I have 4:10s in mine and wheel with it. Now when i say wheel i don't mean romping thru the mud at high speeds. Trail riding where there are some rocks to crawl over and some hills to climb..It all works fine. The motor produces enough horse power but not enough to break it if used properly. Running thru mud at high speeds with big tires will snap stuff cuz you are making it work hard and fast.
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Yeah, I think 33's would be fine as well, but I'd use 5.13's, and it won't be no slouch off the line. you can check what I'm saying using the calculator on ring-pinion.com punch in your 3.73 gearing, the stock 26.5" tire size and like 60 mph or something just use the same mph for both equations. Then take that rpm and write it down and clear the calculator and punch in 5.13 and then 33" tire size and 60 mph. It will be a little higher than stock which means you will have a little more zip at the low end. Or 4.56 will be about exactly the same as stock.
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The set up I could afford:2 inches is the official lift in the suspension.And the body lift is negotiable some of the research I have found suggests that 33s will fit on 2'' of suspension lift with 3'' in the body. while some say 6'' total lift minimum. I never rock crawl and the most articulation I get is when I go into a rut so I think the afore mentioned should do well for 33s.another concern (with any tire in question)is rubbing on the front end in turns I cant seem to find a wide rim with less backspacing.maybe fabing up spacers may help...
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i have very minimal rubbing on the sway bar up front..nothing to worry about. If you need wheel spacers you can get them from JC Whitney for like $7 each. 33's you will deffinately need a 3 inch body lift..you might get away without suspension lift with minimal rubbing on the fenders. I took the plasma cutter to my rear fenders and removed 2 inches all the way around..it only rubbed on the front corner of the rear..the front was fine. after cutting 2 inches off all the way around i grinded the edges down and primed it..then i went to the parts store and got a roll of door trim. Used that on there and it looks good.
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Originally Posted by bigfry
hold on I'll check what your RPM would be at 60. At 60 it would be 2507 in Overdrive, at 75 it would be 3134. So very liveable to me, and would be alot peppier. But 4.56 would be real close to stock,
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Its 5.13's with 33's. thats the rpms noted. The 4.56 was also with 33's but there the rpms would be basically the same as stock at the same speed. But you gotta think you will have more weight to move with bigger tires, and more rolling resistance, etc. Thats why I recommend the 5.13, besides you can't say that little engine couldn't use a little in the low-end, I feel you would be happier with that selection. Might even be able to spin them on the pavement.