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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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tips on CAT removal

anyone removed the cats off their rangers? I just got my new exhaust system put on, but i still want more out of it. I have 2 problems though. the first is that here in NC we are getting emissions test in 2006 for all 95 and newer vehicles... mine is a '99. Second, there is that dang O2 sensor after the cats. Is there anyway to bypass it, or will the CEL be on all the time? Im trying to go the cheapest route so i dont want to buy new high flow cats.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Actually, the cheapest way will probably be to buy new high flow cats. A "dummy" sensor for that o2 after the cat is probably 50 bucks or more, then your not going to pass emissions. If you buy an aftermarket cat on ebay from "catco" they only cost like 35 bucks or somthing, and you might still be able to pass emmissions.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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but then i have to get 2 of them , or do you think i could get by with using one where i had 2 in the first place.

I was thinking about using clamps to secure the new piece of pipe so i could put the cats back on if they ever do start the testing.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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if emmissions isn't a problem take a broom stick and nock the honey comb crap out of the cat.then buy one of thoes dummy sensors.
did that to my buddys 94 but here im MI there isnt any emmissions testing yet.
but since its older than 10years old i dont think he would need to be inspected.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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plus for your buddies 94 you dont need the dummy sensor. And trust me, if you put those clams on there so they dont leak, you'll never get the pipe back off without breaking somthing. Swapping them for emmissions is a good idea, if you could get the pipes off. What you should do, is design a system where its emmissions legal, then move a lever/flip a switch, and have it bypass the cat. I'm not sure what you need to be emmissions legal. If i were you, i'd buy the dummy sensor, cut the cats off, then move over here to MN where we dont have emmissions testing.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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If i were you, i'd buy the dummy sensor, cut the cats off, then move over here to MN where we dont have emmissions testing.
That sounds like a good idea to me.

About how much is one of those dummy sensors, and do they mess with the mixture of the fuel. I mean it would be worthless to take the cats off to gain power if the sensor messes it all up.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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because the sensor only sends one value to the computer, your truck might perform better or worse depending on temperatures, etc, because the computer isnt getting the signal telling it how rich/lean its running with the dummy sensor, so it could verywell hurt your performance. I've heard that Ford cat's are pretty good performance wise because they use a honeycomb instead of pellets like GM uses. If i were you and had to worry about that dang sensor, i'd just leavet he cat there, and put on a nice sounding exhaust, because unless your using it for strictly drag racing you'll probalby not notice the difference, unless there is somehting wrong with the cat, in which case i'd replace it.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Taking the cat out won't give you anymore power.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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I'd leave the cats, and go with high flow exhaust after the cats. I don't think you'll get much improvement w/o the cats, and you'll have to cobble the computer somehow, and it will not run as well. You *might* be able to get rid of both cats and just go with one, but make sure the distance from the cat to the rearmost O2 sensor stays the same. I have heard it messes up the computer if you don't.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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i always knocked the catalyst honeycomb to bits with a long steel rod, on g.m. burn a hole in the baffle with a torch and the pellets will blow right out. older g.m.s had a plug you could remove (or it could rust away eventulley) no emmissions testing here yet.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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With the cats that have been around for the last 20 or so years, you're not gonna unleash any more ponies by removing yours. BTW, I'm not a "greenie" either.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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i was told by the exhaust shop here that you can go from 2 cats to 1 cat
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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You might be able to, i was told the first cat is just a "pre cat" to warm up the second one or somthing like that. You may just be able to go with one and be a happy camper.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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I just did the samething on my 95 Ranger. I cut the cats off and welded a rethreaded nut to the new exhaust pipe for the o2 sensor. Now its 2 1/8 pipe with just a glass pack.Mine runs great no check engine lights etc. Open up the intake side along with the exhaust and you will notice a big difference in acceleration over stock.

I was also thinking ahead in case of emmissions testing, I set it up to were i could take two clamps off and reinstall the cats in minutes.

Good Luck with the exhaust

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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i already have a flowmaster cat back system, and a K&N with the "silencer" removed. i was just wondering if i could get a few ponies the easy way. i was thinking along the same lines as trail rider, but maybe it isn't worth all the trouble.

BTW it sounds really deep with the Flowmasters. I dont know what series it is though. ITs not quite as loud as i thought it would be, but it sounds great.
 
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