I like the 22lr for small game, varmints, and plinking. $10 for 500 rounds is hard to beat.

I would like to get a .223 for deer, antelope, and coyotes. I could shoot all day and not feel bad about wasting expensive ammo.

My 7mm Rem. mag. is a good gun, but the scope does it no justice. Also, the ammo is just too expensive to waste uneless I can find someone to reload ammo for me.

 

Handgun - .40 auto
Learning to shoot and plinking - .22LR
Rifle - .223

 

Mea Culpa.

I didn't say mine is better at all, all I offered was a website that had ballistic data for just about every round commercially available and offer my experience with a couple of calibers.

Sorry for giving my input and "ruining" your thread.

Waxy

 

Your sarcasm aside, if you go back and re-read your original thread, particularly the part that I quoted, you will clearly see that you believe the .308 is of ". . . no comparison." to your 7mm Rem. Mag. and in fact is so much worse that, ". . . I had one, and I'd never have another." You also quoted another poster, and told them you believe they are wrong, "I certainly wouldn't call it a 'reach out and touch something' caliber, quite the opposite acutally in my experience." You then tell us what caliber you believe is better than a .308, "I'm a 7mm Rem Mag guy now." And refer us to Federal's ballistics table for the proof to back-up your argument that we should "Check the ballisitics comparison of the two cartridges, there really is no comparison." Now I have offered you this explanation of why I believe you stated your caliber (7mm Rem Mag.) was better than someone elses (.308), in a reasonable, respectful, and non-sarcastic manner. If you can offer a rebuttal as to why I was wrong, in the same manner, by all means do so. But please do it by emailing me, this is not my thread and I would prefer not to hijack it.

 

7.62 x 39. Cheap and reasonably accurate. I've got a Romanian SAR-1 that I've never cleaned and it goes BANG every time.

 

It appears I've been convicted by the forum police.

As far as you're concerned EnviroCon, whatever, don't you have anything better to do? I do, so don't hold your breath on that email. At least you picked up on my sarcasm.

As for everyone else, I apologize if my initial post was confrontational, not in the spirit of thread, or somehow off topic, I assure you that was not my intent. All I really wanted to do was bring the Federal Ammo site to people's attention. The download is a great resource IMHO.

I do love my 7mm though.

Much later,

Waxy

 

7 MM Mag for big game .
.22 LR for light game .
12 Guage for birds .
Colt 45 autoloader handgun .
Have 34 others to choose from for specific uses like brush guns , over 400 yds,
etc. but these are my favorite all round most versitile choice .

 

Well, I feel somewhat responsible for that mini-flame war there...but you two behave. lol

I have no problem with someone pimping their favorite calibers....any 7mm is generally an EXCELLENT caliber, just as versatile as any of the .30 calibers unless you get to the heavy mags like the 300 winnie, 300 dakota 300 RSAUM, etc...

I really need to ask MJD to please NOT use a .223 for deer or antelope. Most states have a ban on cailbers below .257 for critters like that...the ONLY exception is the .243 Winchester. If your going to go for somthing that can do coyote, deer and antelope, then you need to look into mebbe a .270. Ammo for this is readily available from places like wal-mart, acadamy and oshmans. Its also very very cheap. Not in the same level of cost as a .223...but as far as performance goes, its an outstanding caliber.

Also MJD, getting into reloading is alot easier than you realize. I started by purchasing a Lee starter kit. I am not going to kid you...Lee is the armpit of the reloading community. BUT, their stuff works....works long enough for you to find out if thats somthing you want to do. You will look at an initial investment of around 350-450 dollars. That includes the kit, set of dies, powder, primers and a few types of bullets. You would be better off with a first purchase of a good, solid reloading manual. Any maker will have them...but I suggest Lymans reloading manual. They also sell very good equipment at a reasonable price....

God, I am rambling huge here...sorry.

DB

 

You weren't responsible I was. I apologize and promise to play nice.

 

Guns! some one say Guns! 45 ACP wichis what me and my dad have for are Concealed handguns and yes we have our License. 40 cal. is what my mom carrys 45-70 like to use hunting Hog 22 cal for fun.9mm 12Ga and a 10Ga hard to find.and a AR-15 223 me and my dad are thinking about geting a Full auto to play with A B.A.R would be fun...

 

Sorry, d_b tanker, but if I ever get a .223, I WILL hunt deer and antelope with it. A .222 Rem and anything larger is legal here in SD. I have used a .222 to hunt deer with and I had no trouble. I know a number of people who hunt deer or antelope with a .223 and have good luck. There is nothing to worry about if the range is kept fairly short and the gun will hit where its aimed. I don't need a cannon to shoot a deer (I already have one ). Sorry if I sound a little rude, but it seems like I hear "a .223 will is too small for deer" quite a bit, and I have to disagree. I would probably use my 7-mag to hunt deer most of the time, but if I had a .223 it would work, and I could also use it for coyotes and other varmints.

I have thought about buying a 25-06 or 270 to replace my 7-mag, considering that the ammo is much cheaper and either caliber would work on elk (which I hope to hunt sometime in the future), but think that I would rather get a smaller gun that will not blow a coyote to pieces and keep my 7-mag around just to say I have it.

I have thought about getting a reloading kit, but I do not have the time or the money (mostly the money) to get into it at this point.

 

Alright who wants to be the first one kicked out?


In any case, I like all calibers....some of my favorites are:

.22 K-Hornet
.219 Donaldson Wasp
.225 Winchester
.224 Weatherby
.220 Swift
250/3000 Savage
.25/06 Ackley Improved
.25/06 Remington
6.5/.284 Winchester
6.5/06
7mm BR Remington
.30 BR Remington
.30/06 Ackley Improved
.308 Norma Magnum
30-378 Weatherby
8MM/06

Handguns-
357 Remington Maximum
375 Super Magnum
400 Corbon
.41 Action Express
.41 Magnum
414 Super Magnum
44 Magnum
44 Auto Magnum
445 Super Mag
45 Winchester Magnum

I don't expect you guys to know too many of those cartridges.


I hunt with a .25/06, and I know people that hunt Moose with a .243 Win. If your state has a caliber restriction, then you really should abide by it, if not, then do some reading, and some practice and you can cleanly harvest any animal with any modern centerfire cartridge.

 

My favorites are a whole bunch.

For sidearms, I carry BDA .380 in dress clothes. For traveling I prefer the Ruger 9mm (wife has one also), (yeah, I do know to stay out of some states but that's no problem). Ruger .45ACP when wife is not going along. .44mag for hiking in the outback. Ruger .22 for target cutting.

For rifles, I have not hunted for red meat for several years now but still cut holes in targets with my .22's, .300sav, .300winmag. Am at the 1100 meter range with the winmag, and that's challenging when the breezes are up or the air currents are wandering around. I do all my own reloading. Otherwise can't justify affording the price for the premium commercial offerings required for longer distance accuracy. I have a couple of .357mag rifles that go well with my .357mag pistols. Having the same ammo for rifle and pistol is a plus.

Also have a couple of .17cal BBguns (don't laugh) one is a low-velocity repro of an old Winchester rifle, the other is an 850fps multi-pump/canister model. Also have a serious pellet gun, 17cal, break-barrel cocking, 1,000fps that is quite unbelievable. Sounds rather like an old .22-short or the newer .22 subsonic, and is dead on at well over 100yds but haven't tried it at longer distances.

For shotguns, .410 single that my Dad gave me, a couple of 20ga's and my favorite a Browning Gold in 3-1/2 mag 12 guage. It's deadly on clays but hasn't pursued any feathers yet.

Wife has a 9mm Ruger that she does very well with, and last year fell in lust with a Thompson Contender in .410/45 LC (new model). She busts 4 out of 5 clays with her TC in .410, and chips a piece of the 5th clay. If she had to 'evacuate' I'm sure she would take her TC, as she finds it so easy to operate. But if I had to choose her 'evacuation' piece it would be her P89 in 9mm because we could exchange magazines if necessary. Of course I'd catch heck if her TC was not in the inventory.

Last year I picked up a BP CVA Sidelock in .50cal from WallyWorld since it was on sale. It was so much fun that this year I got the CVA Wolf inline .50 cal mag. There must be something illegal about shooting BP, as it is so much fun. ;-). I might just have to take son-in-law and go share a couple of buffalo next year. If you've never had buffalo, you won't understand so just ignore that last.

If I had to 'evacuate' and could take only one pistol it would be the 9mm if wife was with me (could swap magazines), and if alone it would be the .45. If I could take a pistol and only one rifle, it would be either the .300 Savage or the .300winmag, depending on the situation. The .357's in rifle and pistol would be a decent choice also, for simplicity of carrying ammo and the lighter weight rifle if you had to pack it. Just depends on what the situation is. Also depends on what vehicle was going to be used. The Jeep GC Overland would have to have a really tight inventory for two people, while the 94 XLT with vista-dome insulated topper, carpet kit and pulling the 8ft utility trailer would allow a rather large choice of equipment.

If all I had was a .22, then that would go along for family protection if we had to 'evacuate'.

Anyway, that's MHO, your situation may be different.

 

here are a few favs of mine:
12 gauge
500 SW
7.62x54R
7.62x39
7.62x51
.45
.40
.22lr cheap
357 magnum
44 magnum
9mm
9x18 ?? i think thats it whatevers in the Makarov

 

If it goes pop, crack, whap, bang, or BOOM, I like it.

I have firearms in caliber(s) ranging from:

.22 short, long, and long rifle (too many to list)
.223 Remington Colt AR- HBAR
7.65x25mm (Nice little Walther PP made in 1943)
7mm TC/u
.30 Herrett
.30-'06 Springfield (M1 Garand made Nov. '43) and others
7.62x39 (Russian SKS - '52)
8x57 mm K98k Mauser (a couple of them)
9mm a couple of nice semi-autos
.38/.357 Mag (several revolvers!!)
.45 acp (absolute favorite handgun caliber) Colt Gold Cup N.M. and Colt Combat Commander and Glock G-21
.44 Magnum (handguns and rifles)
.45-70 Gov't. (Marlin 1895-G and 1895 Cowboy)
(I bought the .45-70s just before I broke my neck. I haven't fired either one, yet.)

12 ga. Remington 1100 and Remington 870 Wingmaster