Too many PSD's...
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
I highly doubt that they put the 6.0 out without even testing it, I'm sure that any problems that it had when it first came out were not weeded out during their testing. Trucks is one thing Ford doesn't take lightly, they generally don't rush to the market, they just keep the market by consistantly offering the best product. Now, the 6.0 doesn't have it's teething problems, and the F-350 is the most capable truck in the history of it's class. They've already started R&D on the replacement for the 6.0.
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From: 3rd Rock
there will always be teething problems associated with getting the electronic engine management system
my understanding this is the most complicated elect system sold to the public
my understanding this is the most complicated elect system sold to the public
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From: pound
Originally Posted by jeb
Well, that's your opinion, anyway. Having owned 4 new GM and Ford 3/4 ton's in the last 5 years, I disagree. They're all good trucks. I don't picture the ford's or the GM's as being better or worse.
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Rule no 1 on any diesel powered truck worth a turbo is to let the engine cool down a few minutes before shutting it down. Youll have less problems with your turbo or little problem at all. 2 Use a high quality oil in your diesel. This is very important. Quality oil is critical. Dont try to save money on oil it will be costing you later. Spend a few extra bucks on oil could save you later hundreds of dollars later.3 Monitor your air filter. Air is critical to any diesel and breathing in the littlest dust could really screw up your engine. Change your fuel filter at reccommended intervals according to the owners manual. If you own or are buying one of these diesels no matter what the brand. Some dealerships put on a diesel clinic. I know a lot of the Ford places do. Attend one you might learn something. I just went to a farm show today where Ford had there display and a trailer with the powerstroke engine and information. I really learned a lot today. I thought I might interject this here. Maintenance is critical.
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150ford,
I agree totally with the maintenance thing. I had to work at an auto parts store a few years ago when the two household incomes became one for a brief time and I can't count the number of people who would come into the store driving their brand new (01 at the time with the 20 day sticker still in the window) Powerstroke and ask for 15 quarts of PENNZOIL and the CHEAPEST oil filter we had.........WTF!!! Spend too much on your rig, buddy? Can't afford to take care of it?
DMAX-HD
I don't believe I said ANYTHING about ONLY Chevy owners filling up with gasoline....... But since we do warranty work on Chevy pickups, I see it with Chevys here. Yes there are TONS of idiots here.
Cody
I agree totally with the maintenance thing. I had to work at an auto parts store a few years ago when the two household incomes became one for a brief time and I can't count the number of people who would come into the store driving their brand new (01 at the time with the 20 day sticker still in the window) Powerstroke and ask for 15 quarts of PENNZOIL and the CHEAPEST oil filter we had.........WTF!!! Spend too much on your rig, buddy? Can't afford to take care of it?
DMAX-HD
I don't believe I said ANYTHING about ONLY Chevy owners filling up with gasoline....... But since we do warranty work on Chevy pickups, I see it with Chevys here. Yes there are TONS of idiots here.
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
Evidently, the majority of the market also thinks that the Ford is better. I think there's a reason for that, it's not a coincidence that Ford has outsold every competitor for 30 years.
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
Evidently, the majority of the market also thinks that the Ford is better. I think there's a reason for that, it's not a coincidence that Ford has outsold every competitor for 30 years.
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Well I just checked Fords market share of diesel trucks and its back up to 60%. I guess Ford ordered 30,000 more engines from the international plant in Indiana. The 6.0 has been selling well the last couple of months. I think people were waiting for later engines less chance of problems. I know Fords latest truck sales numbers are 11,000 truck over the GM twins. The numbers have been widening over the last 2 months. The new 150 and new upgraded 250 are the reasons. Did you know that the engine plant producing powerstrokes can crank out 1100 engines a day. Thats amazing
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From: pound
I believe that about half of what Ford sells are 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, but either way, F-250s and F-350s are F-series trucks, too, and they also dominate their market. It's good that Chevy's making progress at number 2, but Ford owns the American truck market.
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All of these trucks have there strengths spread pretty even. I bought a GMC in Feb 03' after the 6.0 was introduced. I will probably never buy a first year vehicle from any of the big three again. Just doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling about paying this much money to be a corporate guinea pig. A friend of mine has a construction business and buys Ford only, so I ask him why? Ford has the best business relations all the way down to the independant contractors. They give deals and options to business owners that I could not get. Makes good advertising sense to me, a show of force in the public has to be cheaper in the long run than advertising on multiple TV channels. At the rate I am putting miles on this one, I should be in the market again around late 05'. He who has the best truck for my needs will win my dollar. 41,000 miles and climbing to 100K before I sell it, no major problems yet.
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From: Kearney, Nebr
I know this may be off subject of the thread... But why don't the manufactures put in a I6 seeming that they are very dominate with low end torque? I would assume it is because there isn't enough gears to go with it....or they would be too many (old Macks only had 9). Just a thought.
Used to work for a big chevy guy. Every pickup he had was a chevy, but the truck that he used on the farm day in and out was a 96' PSD. I see that a lot around here.
As I participate in local tractor pulls, guys can bring out there stock trucks and hook up to the sled. The PSD always seems to come up on top (even if they have to snap all the u-joints). Cummins dont do too bad...dmax cant move the sled. I know thats not a very good test...but its something to think about.
Used to work for a big chevy guy. Every pickup he had was a chevy, but the truck that he used on the farm day in and out was a 96' PSD. I see that a lot around here.
As I participate in local tractor pulls, guys can bring out there stock trucks and hook up to the sled. The PSD always seems to come up on top (even if they have to snap all the u-joints). Cummins dont do too bad...dmax cant move the sled. I know thats not a very good test...but its something to think about.
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From: pound
Yes, the reason is the size of those engines and the simplicity of them makes for easy overhauls, so you can quickly rebuild and have them going again, downtime is lost money for OTR truck owners.
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From: Kearney, Nebr
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Just because they are bigger dosen't mean that you can get one that fits your app. But anyways I just wanted to see... I think it would be sweet to have a big six in a pickup.