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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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Yes, it should just slide apart. Do you have something supporting the front of the transmission?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Yeah I have a floor jack under the tranny, but the gap at the top is about an inch...but there is not really any gap where the rear main seal is, it won't separate there.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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It won't separate there - the clutch and flywheel are still bolted to the engine. The bellhousing and tranny is all that will separate.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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I duno what to do, the inspection plate was unbolted from the start, i just have no way of pulling the motor from the transmission with a good amount of force. It's loose like i said, all the bolts are out, the inspection plate it still there (again, do I have to take that off somehow?) but it's unbolted, i've pried on the gap between the bellhousing and the engine with pry-bars and it'll move around but still won't separate. I might have to call my mechanic as a last resort....I hate it when stuff like this happens.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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It's just a matter of pulling hard enough I believe. If you have someone helping you, have them vary the height of the jack under the transmission and see if it becomes neutral and frees up. The inspection plate shouldn't matter, as long as it isn't bolted to the transmission. The starter is out, right?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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You probably have to lift the motor up a bit more because its catching somewhere. You gotta lift it up high enough to get off the motor mount studs. Also, make sure you are prying at the right spot. The flywheel will stay with the motor so get a nice sized prybar either between the motor and bellhousing and pry against the flywheel if you can get the bar in far enough. Or try putting the prybar in the inspection hole and prying against the flywheel. You could also try pushing the clutch a few times and that might push them apart. Im sure the motor is just catching somewhere though and not allowing it go any more forward.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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I did take the starter out...and the engine has been as high as 3-4" off the motor mounts so the studs havn't been in the way. I'll give it another go probably tomorrow after school. Thanks.

One thing I noticed, I had the shifter for the tranny in neutral the whole time...and i just was in the truck and felt that the shifter is binding now, like you can't move it much (coudln't put it into gear if u wanted to)...is that normal given the situation?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Ok, If you cant shift i'd say the input shaft is definitly binding and its got stress on it.. your gonna have to double check to make sure they are both on the same angle and maybe turn the motor over by hand a bit and try to get it to loosen up. It will come out.. just get a big pry bar and get your feet up on the frame so you can really pull on it.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Well I just played with it again for another 1/2 hr or so. I checked the shifter again and noticed that it actually wasn't in neutral the whole time...it was in 1st. Also, would the transfer case being in 4L have any effect on this? So I put the tranny in neutral and found that the motor would move a little more but I shook that thing pretty hard and it still wouldn't come off. This is starting to really tick me off.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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What ive had to do in the past, (tho I in no way condone or support this activity) is to bounce on the crank pulley to get teh M@#_%&FO to come loose. Making shure the tranny and motor being on the same plane is good advice, and if that condition is met, I dont see why the tranny wont seperate. try jacking the tranny all the way up till it touches the firewall sheetmetal with the belhousing, while lifting the motor at the same time. If the 6 belhousting bolts are out, AND the 2 plus bolts holding the sheetmetal to the trannyare out, I dont see what could be holding this thing in.

Ive had my grief with trying to get motors out of the motor mounts, (especially them dreaded chevy clamshells, YUCK!!) but your issue somewhat is baffling.

I'd stick with a regimine of raising and lowering both the engine and tranny while giving the motor suggestive tugs and bounces on the crank pulley. Keep in mind this is what I'd do, not suggest. I dont condone unsafe acts like bouncing the motor... (if it gets free, who knows where it will go.) *HINT HINT*

Double check and make shure that your shifter linkage is not binding up anyplace, id hate for you to find out that it got bent in your haste and frustration to get the motor birthed. Have a buddy double check the bolts everywere. Youd be suprised what one set of eyes can spot in one minute, what another missed for days on end...


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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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I'm not sure I fully understand, but it sounds like you have the bolts between the engine and bellhousing removed and are trying to sepereate it there. This will work, BUT ONLY if you unbolt the pressure plate from the back of the flywheel. These bolts can be removed from the bottom by turning the engine over and removing the bolts presently at the bottom until the bolts are all removed. This will work if you don't have a weird bellhousing that wont let the flywheel come forward. If you don't have that weird bellhousing this would be my suggestion at this point. Good Luck.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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You shouldn't have to remove the pressure plate. It's supposed to come apart without having to unbolt it, and most of the time you can't even get to the bolts unless the engine and transmission are separated. If you can get to those bolts, you could get around the binding issue.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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I've heard that some time you have to push in the clutch peddle to release the shaft. good luck
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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How about some pics? Also try lowering the trans and engine to just where it clears the motor mounts.Also try moving the hoist chain a little further forward one or two links.Lower the trans to wear it won't fall further down it doesn't get jacked up much. A lot of times we had someone standing on the rear of a engine and bounce a couple of times. It gets easier the more you do it so next time will be better.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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OK I got the engine out...

I ended up putting two bolts back in the top, being very careful not to strip the threads, I tightened the bolts to bring the tranny back into alightment, then pryed again and after 10 or so minutes of playing with it it came off. The engine came right out of the truck with no problems or interference from other parts....so all is good!
 
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