Oh ok Wansn't sure who was making the H2 But I still think it is a joke. A guy we bought an 84 ford from had a chev and knew a guy with and H2, they started comparing the suspention and He started laughing at the H2, Told the guy he had just bought a Chev Tahoe or Suburban with the hummer name.

 

i'm pretty sure the public can still buy a new H1.

 

Im sorry guys but Im positive my next new truck will not be a Ford. Bottom line I NEED a truck that will work. You want to know something pathetic? When I tow the boat to the lake, I dont take my 01 F-150 with the tow package and the 5.4 engine. I take my dads old 96 GMC work truck with just over 200,000 miles on it because it tows better. I dont want to say its a night and day difference but I am nothing short of fuming mad once I get to the lake towing it with my Ford. Thats not the attitude your supposed to have when you go out on the lake.

I became a big-time Ford guy after owning a pretty basic 88 F-150. 2wd, reg-cab, shortbed, 302, with a worthless jap 5speed tranny. I took great care of that truck, kept it looking nice inside and out, did routine fluid changes and whatnot. I took care of the truck because it took care of me. But it came a time when the Mrs wanted something nicer, I wanted a 4X4 and yea, a little more comfort. Plus that damn jap mazda tranny was nothing but dead weight and after 300K miles the truck was tired.

I couldnt be happier with Ford at this point so I went out and bought a fully loaded to the hill, brand new Ford F-150 4X4. Not even a year passes and I want to put a rock to the gas petal and slam it through the front doors of Ford Motor Company. In an earlier post I got a little into the problems so I will spare you now. I honestly think that at 89K miles that truck is ready to retire. If I were to spend about $5,000 to overhaul or restore a truck back to life, its going into the 1988 pickup, no contest! Ford had a good thing going for a while, but if you need an ACTUAL TRUCK and you want new, save your money. There is a new Cummins and Hemi out there that I believe is ready tug some weight, even though the interior is a bit plastic. Chevy has a 5.3 that is quite a screamer, the other two motors drink a little too much gas.

PS: Duramax = Jap junk Powerstroke has same cubes as GM's mid level gas job. What the hell Ford???????

 

Refering to the transmission as a "jap" is kinda racist. Don't do it here. If you do not like your truck then sell it and move on to what you would like to. We like our trucks, which is why we congregate here. You may want to consider that you can get a lemon from every manufacturer.

Chris

 

the "H1" WAS a civilian vehicle. The HUMVEE is the millitary vehicle its actually called the HMMWV that stands for High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle...you cannot purchase a millitary issued humvee that you can use for daily use on the roads....yes you can buy them at gov't auctions but you cannot title them they are sold with a COD cert of destruction or issued with a bill of sale as an out of service US gov't vehicle and you cant get a title for it....trust me uncle sam has about $150k in each of them theres no way your gonna pick one up at an auction for $6k and be able to rock it on the highway

yes the H2 is a joke but even though its not as tough as the real humvee's its still pretty nimble in the mud too bad most of the people who own them would never take them off-roading...

5.4AZ4x4....im sorry to hear about your trouble with Ford man, i think they should come out with an I-6 diesel for the ford superdutys or in place of the powerstrokes...those are the best in torque tried and tru.....hell look at cummins...dodge cant really brag though thats a CUMMINS engine in their top puller...hell should Ford go talk to Caterpillar...then we'll see whats up !! take away their "puller" and they got nothing.....chevy aint doing much better bro....what kinda boat are you pulling??? i mean damn does it require a tug at the dock to get you out in the markers?? cause i have pulled some big a$$ boats with my V-6 4.2L and havent really noticed a lag.....oh well i wish you the best man hope you find what makes tou happy

 

As Brokebronco said, you can get lemons from every manufacturer, even the guys at Ford can have an off day. My bro-in-law is a contractor, he's had an '89 F-150 4X4 since about '92 or '93. It has the 300-6 in it, he's beat the hell out of it and it just keeps going. He decided it was time for new truck, bought an '03 Chevy 3/4 ton 4X4 extended cab, don't know what the model designation is, I don't pay attention to Chevys any more. The main reason he bought it was that he got a better deal on the financing through GMAC than the local Ford dealer was offering. Well, he's not real happy with it. He says his old F-150 will carry more payload, when he loads up the Chevy it just squats in the rear, and the old Ford tows better and gets better gas mileage. He still drives the Chevy most of the time, he figures he's paying all this money for it, he might as well get some use out of it. Besides, he has to keep up appearances, the old Ford's looking pretty rough. And it doesn't have A/C. I guess I'll have to paint it for him, at least. -TD

 

Maybe things would have been different if Ford still made an I6. Supposedly the 300 was excellent for longevity, gas mileage, low-end torque, and towing ability.

 

I realize everyone on here loves Fords, it kinda the point of this whole website. Dont get my wrong, before I pass I will build a 79 Crew Cab Ford and just make an incredable truck out of it. I still am a Ford guy....just an earily Ford guy.

But seriously, how does Ford trucks compete now-a-days? They completed a $2BILLION project rebuilding "the new F-150." The truck has very nice features and is an incredable ride. Now the powerplant (it IS supposed to be a truck afterall). All new top end design running 3 valves per cylnder with variable valve timing which makes 300hp and a strong torque curve, top it all off the spark plug (I believe) fires directly on top of the cylnder for that "Hemi" type of engine. All this new technology and money spent to do what? Run DEAD EVEN with Chevys simple build old school OHV smaller V8 engine??? How about that Hemi? 350hp that blows the doors off of that 5.4.

And how about that new 6.0 Diesel? Everyone knows that making a motor smaller is great for really hauling thoes big heavy trailers. WRONG! There is no replacement for displacement I dont care how new and improved the injectors are. For a Diesel engine, the motor designed for the biggiest jobs to be cut down so much in size you just have to wonder what kind of money GM is paying these Ford people to do something so stupid. I cant wait till 2007 and to see what Cummins has in store for the Ford when the contract with Powerstroke is up. Maybe they can help Ford out in building a T-R-U-C-K.

Im all mouthy because mainly I am just mad. I believe Ford is capable in being so much better then they are but for some reason they like being 2 years behind the competition. Concentrating on style and comfort features is I guess is more important then making the vehicle able to get out of its own way!!! Damnit Ford

 

Hey have you heard about the hurricane motor in the 150 that should satisfy your power interests. Sounds like the hemi has gotten you in a tether about ford. Hemi this and hemi that. It seems like that is the god of all truck engines anymore. Thats just what Dodge wants you to think. Your giving it too much credit here for the hemi. And when did dodge ever make a descent truck. All I know is Dodge means trouble. I would never have on e period. Hey Fords doing just fine. Without Cummins and Hemi there alright. Get a Dodge if you want one. Its your money.

 

I think they should build trucks like they used to ... focusing on durability, economy, etc. rather than comfort.

 

You definitely have a lemon. I regularly drive my grandfather's 98 F-150 5.4L and pull a 5,000lb. boat to Chesapeake Bay with it from here, and it is no slouch, I can hold it to 70mph with no problems. I can pass Dodge Ram 5.9 Magnums & Chevy 5.7's all day long in it. The Hemi is just a marketing ploy, and at least Ford is taking their time with the "Hurricane" project, so it won't have developmental issues like dropping valves and excessive oil burning. I had a neighbor who bought a Hemi Ram, and they took it back because it burned more oil than gas, traded it in for a Mitsubishi.

 

thats right. a GM truck is not a TRUCK. its a big ol' car. as for 85e150six4mtod up there. if you want to buy another ford why are you bashing them cause later on you go on to say i want to buy another ford. people you talk to are going to look at you like you are two faced or something is wrong. i am sorry but it really ticks me off when people bash ford. i know exactly how hard those guys work here at the sharronville plant making the transmissions. no a/c, temps in the shop over 100 degrees, workers working the buts off to make a good product. my grandpa turned in several suggestions to ford and ford actually used them at this plant and others. he even turned in the suggestion for an entire valve body assymbly line at the plant. and as for poor engineering. i have seen none more poor than GM and Chrysler. i talked to a machanic that said after a chrysler product reaches 70,000 miles you should get rid of it soon. and for GM i know a guy right now that has a New chevy truck and hates it. he has had alot of problems with the truck that GM has told him and "FLAWS" in the design. flaws so bad that the truck would not down shift going up hill with a load he took it back and they told him its a flaw in the design and that GM has came out with a special bracket that attaches the trans to the frame properly. and thats just one major thing thats gone wrong with it. he use to buy nothing but ford he said. he thought he would try an chev this time and he said he would never buy another chev after all of this. at my house i got 3 ford trucks sitting in the driveway i will put up agaist any compareable GM or chrysler.

 

grandpa's chevy ('88 1/2 ton, 305 engine) lost the distributor bearing/bushing...at just over 30,000 miles....
heck, ole Ford is runnin great at 200,000+, but when i put a new clutch in it in june '02, i could turn the flywheel and engine over with my bare hands....
didn't need the screwdriver to turn the thing with, must be gettin weak.
i'll bet now i could turn the engine over by the belts, but i'm darn sure not gonna try it, lol

 

Every time someone says something bad about ford I remind them that more municipalities use ford more than any other maker,ambulances,police cars,firetrucks, electric company etc.When there's trouble I'm glad there's a Ford coming and not some piece of chevy.(Sorry that was chevy bashing was'nt it)!

 

that deals with money and not with quality of product.

And with all this talk of the new hemi and how great it is, why does the nissan Titan outrun/tow/everything else over all three of the American manufacturers.

As far as ford bashers, i'm one of them, well sometimes I am. Ford makes really good trucks, but their cars are junk. I have had 3 ford cars and all were junk. But my old truck runs like a champ