On the comparision test Between the Ford Dodge and Chevy Diesels Does anybody no if the Dodge and Chevy were the 600 pound and 590 pounds of torque models? This is not mentioned.Is their any test out their by a independent.

 

What specific tests are you referring to?

 

I'm guessing the comparison that is linked on the FTE homepage.

 

the test on this site

 

the test where they raced them with trailers on them at the Ford proving grounds

 

They were the latest, "HO" engines. Axle ratios were the same as well... too many reporters there from every major publication for Ford to try to play any games.

 

I was hoping it was a good test.Did they do a test on a long hard pull on a hill.

 

Ken, nice writeup on the new Super Duty trucks. Somehow I can't find the test. Can someone post a link please?

 

The write-up is all there is. There was no specific, scientific test, just a bunch of reporters taking the trucks through field runs/courses.

 

I only saw the comparison between the Dodge and Ford pulling the trailers

 

From Ken's report on the 3 trucks:
I don't know how someone could read this and only see "the comparison between the Dodge and Ford pulling the trailers."

 

OK just a bit of a miss

 

Go read the article in pickuptruck.com about the 05 superduty and it will tell you that ford outpulled them all....However if you look at the article in pickuptruck.com about the 04.5 cummins 600 it will tell you that the 600 outpulled them all, so go figure....Im thinking its whoever does the testing....

 

First Drive: 2005 Ford Super Duty
By: Mike Magda, Editor Posted: 06-27-04 18:42 PT
© 2004 PickupTruck.com

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When you’re dealing with ¾- and 1-ton pickups, it’s all about bragging rights. Here’s where advertising copywriters support their lofty superlatives with real numbers…hopefully real big numbers. The goal is always to be best in class, no matter the category. But the bigger the number, the better.

For 2005, Ford will introduce redesigned F-250 and F-350 pickups in its Super Duty line. As with any significant makeover or next-generation improvements, there is a different look complemented with more performance and additional features. The new Super Duty has a bolder appearance with a larger, intimidating grille. The V10 gas engine picked up an extra valve per cylinder and a bunch of horsepower, and the Power Stroke diesel added a little extra torque. There’s a new coil suspension on 4-wheel-drive models that replaces the old leaf springs and significantly shortens the turning diameter by average of almost 6 feet. Larger brakes are also new.

But there’s power and prestige in numbers. And if your numbers aren’t the highest, then tell the customer why you’re still the best. And do it with some authority because heavy-duty truck owners are extremely knowledgeable and loyal. They tow more, and they know more when it comes to trucks.

Take the battle for supremacy in engine torque. That’s always a favorite because truck owners equate torque with hauling power, towing efficiency and off-road prowess. Ford engineers added 10 lb-ft of torque to the 6.0-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel engine, bringing the total of 570 lb-ft. That’s 30 lb-ft less than the upgraded and class-leading Cummins 5.9-liter inline-6 in the redesigned Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500 models.



But Ford backs up its engine with a TorqShift 5-speed automatic transmission that officials confidently suggest is more efficient than the Dodge equipment, so more usable torque gets to the ground. To prove the point, Ford invited the automotive media to its desert proving ground near Kingman, Arizona, to drag race the new Super Duty against top-of-line competitive models from Chevrolet and Dodge. With each truck towing trailers loaded with 13,400 pounds and equipped with identical rear axle ratios, they were sent off down the track side by side. In the three races in which I participated, the Dodge always had an early advantage but the Ford chased down the Ram quickly and with authority to lead at the end of a quarter mile.

The point was well made: Perhaps the Dodge does have a little more torque and it’s useful at low speed, but the Ford’s total drivetrain is more efficiently managed to pull harder in the mid range






Must of been a mistake---sorry had to say it before the Dodge guys did.

 

If you read the test drive on the 04.5 Dodge they say it never lost at cresting the hill they were on,it doesn't state speed or hill grade or if all trucks had same ratio.Also was not the newer Chevy or Ford.
Not trying to start an arguement just wanted to get all the facts out there.
I know that the above test with the 05 were done with automatics,the Cummins might have done better with the stick,don't know though.