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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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Dodge did the same test when the new cummins came out with different results.
When they give a review they should ask reps from all parties to participate.
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Dyno trucks to verify they are representative of their claims.

I do not buy the efficiency of the ford auto making as big a difference
However if its true then the real argument should be why would anyone want to buy a auto when the 6sp should be king. (Manuals are much more efficient at putting power to the wheels).

Just MHO
Right, and when the 6.0 came out, it owned the competition. When Dodge did their test with the Cummins 600 and got different results, they weren't testing against the 2005 SuperDuty. Also, some people want a stronger transmission and don't want to shift all of the time. I know, I couldn't believe it either, but some people like autos.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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My first point was that why do any of us listen to what any of these demos. When each new truck is unveiled they get a truck made by the competition and then beat it. Does anyone think that they do the test before autowriters without knowing the outcome? I have to believe that they have run each one of the trucks and know how they will perform and then style the test to make theirs look the best. If in this Ford test, when they checked the performance of these three trucks, do you think they would have left it alone if the Ford was not performing at optimum? Do you think they would have fixed a Dodge or Chevy if they were not up to par? I have read enough in the Ford, Chevy, and Dodge forums to know that there are sometimes large differences in the way identically rigged trucks by each manufacturer runs. The only way you are going to be able to have confidence in any of these tests is if there is some way to verify that each truck performs as it was supposed to. I am in no way bashing this Ford test as I was just as leary of the results (well maybe not quite as leary)when the 600 was done.

As far as the 2005 wasn't tested against the 600 when Dodge had their comparison, thats right. That was back in Jan. or Feb. (memory) when Ford had not even released the 2005. But I think it was pretty much the same engine with the addition of 10lb of torque and the same driveline. Unless the weights or something changed, the large differences in the Dodge test drive and the Ford test drive probably had more to do with who offered the test than the differences in trucks. I'll have to dig up that test but in the Dodge test drive against the Ford and Chevy the Dodge pulled much better than the Ford. And the Chevy was still back there somewhere.

Now I am waiting to see if Chevy plans to test their diesel.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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The point of the tests is to show how well your vehicle performs against similar makes from other manufacturers. It's kind of hard to rig a drag race when all trucks are stock and carrying the same weight. Especially with all of the media there, it would have been very risky if Ford did not have similarly equipped trucks there from Dodge and Chevrolet. The 2005 SD has tons of differences from last year's model, so it's new and improved, and even though you've seen last year's test, this year's Ford is better than their last entry.
 

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