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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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One of my buddys works at a local ford dealership and says ford just wised up to the performance modules and downloaders are are now checking pins on the connectors for wear .....pins on some connectors have a coating on them ...anyone hear of such a thing...??? especially on the diesels.
 

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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They got even wiser than that! My 2003 1/2 has a completely sealed computer. There are no openings like on the old ones where you can put a chip, no contacts accessible anywhere. You can't even open the box because it is welded shut except for the 104 pin plug that goes to the engine compartment.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Ive got a 1995 F150 and i've added a superchip to the computer. When installing the pin had a protective coating and had to be removed. My opinion is that if they have a coating on them, and they used the protective coating so they don't get activated. By cleaning the pins the ford motor company can tell if you have added to the computer or one has been added. I know that if you are having a problem with the check engine light coming "on" you are to remove the chip to see if the problem is solved. If not then you can use your scanner to locate the problems
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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They got even wiser than that! My 2003 1/2 has a completely sealed computer. There are no openings like on the old ones where you can put a chip, no contacts accessible anywhere. You can't even open the box because it is welded shut except for the 104 pin plug that goes to the engine compartment.
that sucks
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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They just figured this out now? chips and tuners have been around for years...

And what if they find wear? don't they still have to prove that the part actually caused and harm to void the warranty of that particular part?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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that sucks
That's ok though, the power programmer will still work on it. Someday Diablo will have their tuner available for the 5.4L. It's not that big of a deal, I was lucky enough to have bought the biggest gas V8 Ford has to offer on the 250...
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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...And what if they find wear? don't they still have to prove that the part actually caused and harm to void the warranty of that particular part?
Not anymore. Ford is looking for any way they can to reduce warranty expense. Ford's warranty specifically excludes coverage due to modification, so all they have to do is prove that your modification could be RELATED to the problem, and you're done. What they can't do is void coverage to non-related parts on the truck. If you put a chip in and the tailgate falls off, they can't deny warranty coverage to the tailgate, for example.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If you want to maintain warranty coverage on your truck, then hold off on these mods till AFTER your warranty expires.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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FYI ... I just looked in my manual and found that they (FORD) specificallly names chips and tuners as a means of voiding your warranty. Never noticed that b4 ... now that really blows.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by n578md
That's ok though, the power programmer will still work on it. Someday Diablo will have their tuner available for the 5.4L. It's not that big of a deal, I was lucky enough to have bought the biggest gas V8 Ford has to offer on the 250...

The Diablo Predator for 99-03 5.4 was supposed to have shipped yesturday...
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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The Diablo Predator for 99-03 5.4 was supposed to have shipped yesturday...
Are you going to try it? If so, let me know what kind of results you get.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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I will. But first I need to get my comp reflashed with the latest from ford....B4 I buy the thing....
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Did Diablo ask you to update your PCM?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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Ford does not VOID your warranty.

They can DENY a warranty claim.


Sorry, but it just bothers me when people say...."They voided my warranty......"
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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not that I want to get into a ****ng match but they just voided my buddys 03 cobra telling him his car was in an accident because it was towed in for a busted half-shaft...theres more to the story ...only had flowmasters on it no other mods...go figure...a scuffed rim and broken axle SVT had ford ditch his warranty saying car was abused and hit .....BYE BYE WARRANTY I told he needs JOHNNY COCHRAN......
 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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I ain't buyin' the worn pin coating theory. That proves nothing. Could have used it strictly as a diagnostic. Service tech could have used it.

Reaching pretty low on that one I think.
 
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