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View Poll Results: What's your V-10 oil usage?
A quart every 1,000 miles
3
2.33%
A quart in 1,500 miles
2
1.55%
A quart in 2,000 miles
10
7.75%
A quart in 2,500 miles
10
7.75%
A quart in 3,000 miles
21
16.28%
More than 3,000 miles
83
64.34%
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Poll: Your V-10 oil usage.

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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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I usually put in one quart between 5K changes. V10 Excursion with 4.3 rear and 35 inch tires. If I leave it alone it never goes below the minimum mark on the dipstick, but I figure more oil is better than less. My truck also sits slightly nose high as opposed to stock trucks that are all nose low, so I may not be getting a proper reading on the dipstick. It barely shows over minimum after a six quart fill.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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My Tioga Motor home mounted on E450 Frame sits slightly nose up too. 6 Quarts will not bring it to the full mark on the stick. I always have to add about 1/2 qt to get the full mark. I like you want to see my oil level on the full mark. Especially the way the engines get worked out pulling heavy loads like this.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner2
My Tioga Motor home mounted on E450 Frame sits slightly nose up too. 6 Quarts will not bring it to the full mark on the stick. I always have to add about 1/2 qt to get the full mark. I like you want to see my oil level on the full mark. Especially the way the engines get worked out pulling heavy loads like this.
My '01 F250 owner's manual says 6 qts at oil change (w/filter) and do NOT add more if the oil is between the marks. I've stopped adding that extra 1/2 qt, and it seems to keep the blue puff at startup to a minimum...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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Krewat,

I know the manual says 6 quarts with filter, but when the dipstick doesn't show full I feel more comfortable with that bit of extra oil to top it off. Lucky to get 1500 miles per qt. Some times I wonder if the dip stick is marked correctly. As much as I enjoy the power and perfomance of the engine I an not convinced that it was one of Ford's better ideas. Seems to me in this modern age they should be able to keep the spark plugs in their respective bores. Oil burning is the other issue I have problems with Ford. I don't buy their wisdom that a 1000 miles to a quart of oil in a modern gas engine is acceptable.

I don't get the blue puff on start up that you mentioned. I do, however, have a V10 oil burner.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner2
Krewat,

I know the manual says 6 quarts with filter, but when the dipstick doesn't show full I feel more comfortable with that bit of extra oil to top it off. Lucky to get 1500 miles per qt. Some times I wonder if the dip stick is marked correctly. As much as I enjoy the power and perfomance of the engine I an not convinced that it was one of Ford's better ideas. Seems to me in this modern age they should be able to keep the spark plugs in their respective bores. Oil burning is the other issue I have problems with Ford. I don't buy their wisdom that a 1000 miles to a quart of oil in a modern gas engine is acceptable.

I don't get the blue puff on start up that you mentioned. I do, however, have a V10 oil burner.
Mine doesn't lose ANY oil between 3K oil changes... Castrol 5w30 dino...

The blue puff is only there when I start it up, move it 10 feet, shut it down and restart the next day - POOF! But it got better after going with only 6 qts.

The extra oil will (barely) keep the oil cooler, but with a real oil cooler on the V10, it's pretty pointless...

To me, it seems people that bitch the most about oil consumption are using synthetic. It also seems that most of the people that do not use any oil are using dino. Coincidence? I think not.

Funny how Amsoil makes a point of having the lowest "volatility" (evaporation of solvents, etc) of all the synthetics... never heard of a standard volatility test for dino
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner2
I have the V10 in My Tioga Motor Home. It has used a quart of oil every 1500 miles since new. It has 28000 miles now on it no change. Still a quart 1500 miles. I have heard the earlier V10's were oil burners. One would think in these modern times Ford could do better that that! I can handle the oil issue it is blowing spark plug issue that scares me to death with the V10. Have three freinds that have had them blow out. 2 99's and one 2000. All farm trucks. BTW they use oild too, two of the use a quart in 2000 miless the 2000 model about the same. I have always used what the Ford Owners Manual states 5W-30
WELL YOU CAN ADD ME TO YOUR LIST I HAVE A '99 F250 CREW V10 AND I JUST BLEW PLUG.IT HAS 78,000 I WAS WONDERING HOW YOUR PAL'S FIXED THEIR V10'S.I AM THINKING ABOUT THE TIME-SERT INSERT....I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO..THANKS...FORD TURNING THERE HEADS THE OTHER WAY WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM..THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.OTHER THAN WHEN I WENT DOWN TO FORD JUST SO HAPPENS THERE IS ANOTHER TRUCK WITH SAME PROBLEM GETTING FIXED $2200.........OUCH......INSERT=$150.....
 
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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99, As far as I know the dealers replaced the heads in question. If it happens to me I think, if I can find the motor, lol, I will try the inserts! What do you have to lose at this point? Ford dealer wants 1400 bucks for the head which requires a complete tear down of the motor because of the it's design. You start at the front, pull the timing gear cover and go from there. $3000 plus repair job. It sucks! If this blows maybe I will adapt a 8.1 Vortec! LOL, have not heard of them blowing plugs
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
Mine doesn't lose ANY oil between 3K oil changes...
To me, it seems people that bitch the most about oil consumption are using synthetic. It also seems that most of the people that do not use any oil are using dino. Coincidence? I think not.
Mine is one of the highest oil users and I just use the Ford oil. Changes done at the dealer.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner2
99, As far as I know the dealers replaced the heads in question. If it happens to me I think, if I can find the motor, lol, I will try the inserts! What do you have to lose at this point? Ford dealer wants 1400 bucks for the head which requires a complete tear down of the motor because of the it's design. You start at the front, pull the timing gear cover and go from there. $3000 plus repair job. It sucks! If this blows maybe I will adapt a 8.1 Vortec! LOL, have not heard of them blowing plugs
I don't why there's such a stigma over having a heli-coil, it used to be standard operating procedure in cars. Heck, Ferrari, Alfa, alot of the high falutin hand built car builders just put them in as a matter of course. The 12 cylinder, 3.5 liter engines had to run 12-1 compression to make any power, so steel threads holding plugs into a soft aluminum block was the way to go. Try the heli-coils. If that fails Ford has a 514 (bored and stroked 460) cubic inch crate motor that is cheaper than a replacement 6.8 V-10. Hot Rod mag rated it best bang for the buck, it made like 650 hp (my mind is barely there nowadays, it may have been 850 hp, I will look it up). Put that in front of a beefed up tranny and you would have the MAN (hey who cares about mileage anyway, if we cared about mileage we sure wouldn't be driving V-10's) Good luck ! Try the heli-coil, it will fix it, now and for ever, Ken
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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It's interesting to look at these results. Even though most people here don't use any real oil, if you extrapolate the number using a quart in 2,000 miles or less to the whole population of V-10's, it's a huge number!

These super duties seem to be inconsistent, even though they are great trucks overall. Some stop great, others like a loaded freight train. Some V-10's with aggressive drivers and 4. gears get 12 mpg, others with granny drivers and 3.73's get 10 mpg. Some a/c units will freeze you out of the truck, others won't cool anything. Most go 100,000 with no plug blowouts, others lose 1, or even 2 in the first 50,000 miles.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Shepard
It's interesting to look at these results. Even though most people here don't use any real oil, if you extrapolate the number using a quart in 2,000 miles or less to the whole population of V-10's, it's a huge number!

These super duties seem to be inconsistent, even though they are great trucks overall. Some stop great, others like a loaded freight train. Some V-10's with aggressive drivers and 4. gears get 12 mpg, others with granny drivers and 3.73's get 10 mpg. Some a/c units will freeze you out of the truck, others won't cool anything. Most go 100,000 with no plug blowouts, others lose 1, or even 2 in the first 50,000 miles.
My bro-in-law has 3 V-10 F-series. A 1999 dually 4 door 4WD, a 2001 Super cab 4WD and a 2002 4 door SRW 4WD. And the 2001 feels like a banana is caught in the exhaust pipe. None of his employees want to drive it. I drove it from the dealership (he has me buy all his trucks for him, he's not a negotiator) and I had to get out and look at the badges, then get out and open the hood before I'd believe the V-10 was under the bonnet. It gets less mpg than the other 2, you have to drive it harder to keep up in traffic. I let him drive my 98 V-10 van once when he hauled a bunch of guys down to the Rogue river to go whitewater rafting. He just couldn't believe how much power it had even above his other 2 trucks, and he got almost 15 mpg down and back. I have NEVER gotten better than 14 when I was trying to get great mileage, so go figure. There does seem to be alot of differences in them, I wonder why that is ?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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2500 miles of pulling the guts out of it and no oil usage (so far)
 
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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99 E45 with Coachmen Leprechaun 31' Class C. 26000 mi, uses just short of a quart between 5000 mi changes. Use Wal-Mart oil.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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i have used royal purple synthetic in my truck since new and the truck uses less than a quart between 3k mile intervals.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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I have 2 E-350 V-10s. One 98 with 90,000 miles and no oil burnage and one 2000 with 105,000 miles also with no burnage. I change the oil in both every 3000 miles with whatever i can get my hands on.
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