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Old Dec 10, 1999 | 11:57 PM
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Perkins diesel

I just saw a message in a different forum suggesting someone try a Perkins 6 cylinder diesel in a F250. How would that work and what transmissions could it bolt to?
 
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Old Dec 13, 1999 | 06:12 PM
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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I am also interested in putting a Perkins Diesel in a F250. I have the truck and the engine. It is a 354 Perkins. I am unsure how to set up the bell housing to the 4 speed tranny.
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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A couple years ago Dad dropped a Perkins 354 from a Massey 510 combine in a 76 F150. It was tight fit. Had to use an electric fan and notch the firewall due to length. He used a 5 spd from an international straight truck and I don't recall what his bell housing was exactly but it wasn't correct and had to have some ears welded on and new bolt holes added to get it to bolt up. (I think a bellhousing from a 345 International V8 will bolt right up but don't quote me on that we never could find one to try). He had to beef the 1/2 ton's springs up in the front due to the added weight (used coilovers on the shocks). It was an interesting experiment. His was a non turbo version so it didn't have a lot of power and with the way it was geared topped out at 75 floored, but it would get 20 mpg and had a ton of torque just off idle. Also you had to wear earplugs when running flat out down the interstate due to the noise. It started getting air in to the fuel for some reason that we never tracked down so he parked it and bought a 95 power stroke.
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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there used to be a place in either Palmdale CA or N Hollywierd called keystone engr (kennedy?) that made 1/4 plate adapters for anything to anything if they had the patterns, or could get them. really popular with the VW sandrail bunch
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Thank you TDF and Piotrsko for the info. I am going to put it in a 3/4 ton. 79 ford. But I am wanting to use my 4 wheel drive tranny. But will have to see how that turns out.
 
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TDF
A couple years ago Dad dropped a Perkins 354 from a Massey 510 combine in a 76 F150. It was tight fit. Had to use an electric fan and notch the firewall due to length. He used a 5 spd from an international straight truck and I don't recall what his bell housing was exactly but it wasn't correct and had to have some ears welded on and new bolt holes added to get it to bolt up. (I think a bellhousing from a 345 International V8 will bolt right up but don't quote me on that we never could find one to try). He had to beef the 1/2 ton's springs up in the front due to the added weight (used coilovers on the shocks). It was an interesting experiment. His was a non turbo version so it didn't have a lot of power and with the way it was geared topped out at 75 floored, but it would get 20 mpg and had a ton of torque just off idle. Also you had to wear earplugs when running flat out down the interstate due to the noise. It started getting air in to the fuel for some reason that we never tracked down so he parked it and bought a 95 power stroke.
Still have that Perkins?
I just solved a very interesting power loss problem on a VW diesel that would run fine all day long as long as they stayed off the freeway. It would start to chug, loose power, and stall if they tried to keep up with traffic.
There was tons of air in the fuel as it was entering the injection pump.
I removed the sender from the tank and it was as clean as if it was installed yesterday.
Proceeding along the fuel lines to the front of the car revealed nothing.
Even applying some compressed air to the fuel line, all it would do is blast out the fuel at the other end and all the clamps were tight and dry.
New fuel filter installed and you could see the fuel RACING into the injection pump full of air bubbles.
What it ended up being was the banjo fitting at the top of the pump for the fuel return was the wrong one. It is supposed to be one single little hole in the side of the fitting about 1mm in size. What was there were three large holes that were about 5 mm. It was a fitting for a gas engine fuel filter!!!
Once I installed the proper fitting in the top of the injection pump it slowed the fuel from racing back out of the pump and dumping in the tank and a test drive on the interstate confirmed that the repair was complete.
I don't know if the Perkins injection is the same design strategy as the Bosch, but your symptoms exactly matched what this car was doing. So it was worth the post.
 
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Thanks Kwik, I'll pass that on to my Dad. He's still got the perkins.

Nhaase79, I made a mistake in my earlier poset, I talked to Dad yesterday and he says he used the 345 bellhousing it was the correct circle, but the bolt holes didn't line up which was why he had to weld it up in places and drill some new holes. He also said that some company put a few perkins 6's in small grain trucks, Dodge, International maybe, I'm not sure who. So he knows there's a bellhousing out there somewhere that will bolt to the back of a perkins and hook up to a manual tranny. That's the one he was looking for, but never could find.
 
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a dodge commando 100 truck made in europe i can not find a place to find parts still thanks for the info i heard a 5.9 off a dodge would work i dont no thanks for the info
 
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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It may vary depending on application, but the bellhousing for a small-block v8 or 300 I-6 should work at least some of the time. ford used the 300 and 354D perkins in 6000 series tractors.
 
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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thought I remembered perkins had SAEII brll housing
 
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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TDF did you have a chance to see about that air in fuel problem?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Hi.

My first try at this.When you replace a ford gas with a diesel you need to remove the
screen/filter in the fuel tank.I ran into this with my f250 some years back.
I have been running a 354.4 for about ten years.
 
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