My truck will not even see 100,000 miles, its called buying a new one. Do you diesel guys really keep you trucks forever? How boring. I get a new truck every 3 -4 years, so I could really care less about which engine last longer, or how much damage I do to my truck. Also, the supercharger only cost $2100, installed myself.

 

I typically bicker with some of the other members of this forum about best deisel motors - bla, bla bla. But what world do you live in?

If you think you can add all that for $5000 to V10 that's unrealistic maybe double that. and you still won't get the longevity out of the motor and maybe not even the performance of a plain old slightly modded desiel running #2. You keep on saying 'diesel bad' but the fact is there are very few late models on the market - any brand. People who got'em usually love'em. Go on this forum and you see people switching over all time from gas to diesel and wondering why they didn't sooner.

 

And where do you get this misnomer about my mileage going down with a supercharger. A supercharger makes your engine run more efficiently, it is burning more air the fuel than on a normaly asperated engine. The only reason it may seem that supercharged engine might get less mileage, is becasue you may be more tempted to gun it.

 

Yea - you see a lot of gas motors at truck pulls

NOT!!!

 

If you want to buy new every 3-4 years go ahead, I don't relish the idea of having a perpetual loan. I put nearly 50,000 on mine last year and I'm sure there's people in here that drive alot more than that. I drive alot so I like to have the most fuel efficient and longest lasting engine -- the diesel. Your also forgetting the exhaust mods, tranny mods, and chip that would be required to match a diesel's performance. I believe mattsf250 is right, you will never see 600-700hp out of the V10 without significant internal mods.

 

I agree, a v10 with a supercharger probably will never make it to 100,000 miles. What I don't understand is why spend $2100 dollars and void the warranty on your v10 when you can spend a little more than that for a diesel and have a pickup that will perform the way you want, still has a warranty, and much higher value when you trade.

If you want something that is light and fast, don't buy a pickup, buy a mustang.

If you want a disposable truck, go ahead and buy a Chevy.

If you want something that will run with a powerstroke, why not buy a powerstroke?

Denial is the first stage of the "I didn't buy a powerstroke" grieving process.

 

hahahhaahhha

 

This the big factor in real world use. Unless, you only use a truck sparsely the cost of operating a gasser, doing the work diesels do routinely, every day, is huge. A few years ago, I knew a young welder that said he just couldn't afford to go to a diesel, so he stuck to the big block gasser. He had actually put a lot of money into this big block in both maintaince and power upgrades. This was a job that required covering long distances during the day. Almost every day, at day break, he had to pump $40-$60 worth of gas into his rig. That's as much $1800 a month. When he finally saw the light, and got a new diesel, he could make the payments, and pay for the fuel and maintainence, and still have money left, compared to operating the gasser all day long.

It's usually the hard core enviromentalists that don't want people to switch to diesel, but it saves in imported oil consumption big time.

 

Most people break even with the additional cost of a diesel by 100K miles. If they don't make it to that mileage before they sell it, they still get more money for it when they sell it. Bottom line, the additional cost when you buy a diesel is not "lost," but deferred until such time as you either break even or sell the truck.

I personally have no desire to have a new truck every 3-4 years. My 1997 is in great shape and I expect to have about 170K on it by the end of the summer. My truck is perfectly capable of towing and hauling to the max of the 8800 GVWR and 20000 GCWR and I have no reason to trade it in just for new truck smell.

 

The petrol vs diesel debate... Put it simply if you are paying for fuel, you would buy the diesel, if someone else is paying, I would be having that big v10 under my bonnet

 

bwahahahaha


ok, stop it. your killin me!


here is why...............

the BSFC of a N/A (naturally aspirated) gas engine in excellent tune will be in the .45 range. a supercharged engine runs alot richer, needs extra fuel to cool the chamber, and to eliminate hot spots. supercharged engines DO NOT do well with detonation! a supercharged gasser is going to need to be in the .55-.60 range...thus more fuel.....there is no free lunch, you add more air, then you add a corrosponding amount of fuel to make sure it is safe.
next item, timing retard! you will be lucky to run a v10 with more than 15* total timing at full boost, and thats going to be with an intercooler, maybe 12* w/o one (in a 6-7k lb truck that is). there is another milage hit, you should be running ~32-34* total timing at 3k and up, instead your running less than half, efficiency is down, and thus milage is down.

last, 2100 for a s/c kit on a v10? maybe off ebay used! (not that it is a big deal, my first s-trim was off ebay )

now, that does not come with injectors, custom burned chip, intercooler, headers, irridium plugs, cat-back, larger mass air sensor, powerpipe, or any of the other essentials supercharger companies like to call "options"......

with the base kits, your lucky to get over 100hp increase at the FLYWHEEL, and ~80 at the tires.



thank you, come again.

 

whatever

 

That' is why you put the supercharger after many thousands of miles...say past 150k.....not when new.

 

That sounds like a good recipe for piston ring failure. I still don't see how you will ever make 600-700 horsepower out of the V10 or any other engine in the modular engine family without significant internal upgrades. I have worked on a few modulars, mainly older 4.6/5.4s, and let me tell you they are NOT cheap to work on.

 

"My V-10 will out torque you anyday, without breaking a sweat." superdutyhaulin
-from F-150 vs. Hemi thread

Well... my diesel will out torque you anyday, without breaking a sweat!!