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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Thanks for the link to that pan, Now if No one hear outbids me I think I can get it . Hint! Hint!
The "Poor" Blind Guy
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
Maybe that # 1 rod was backwards, and didn't oil the cylinder, causing the scoring?
I haven't seen an FE rod up close for years. There is a pressurized hole in the small end?

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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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I went back today to get the pan. It looks pretty good, the paint is now drying. Good old Ford Blue :-)

Anyway, I spoke more with the machine shop. It wasn't so much the rods as the pistons. The valve reliefes were backwards. The larger reliefes are for the intake and vice-versa. Hence the " I" and "E".

I'm back to assembing now. That cam gear and sleeve sure fit tight. I should have turned down the crank snout down just an amoeba hair.

I bought one of these degree wheels. Scouder et al may need to help me use this gadget...I don't think it cam with destructions.
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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Did flatlander install those pistons backwards???? You are lucky you still have intake valves left!
 
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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratsmoker
Did flatlander install those pistons backwards???? You are lucky you still have intake valves left!
Yup, just another possible blunder from Flatlander.


I need to verify the local guys know what they were saying. They may have assumed all Fords or even other makes have the same piston orientation. Which may not be the case for the FEs.

Update: just confirmed they are correct now.
 

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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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I was trying to figure out how they could have done that? arent all 4 eyebrow reliefs on,

those pistons the same depth? if they are? the only way I could see how that
could happen..If they had 1 piston set with the eyebrows perpindicular to the block?

Russ
 
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ratsmoker
Did flatlander install those pistons backwards???? You are lucky you still have intake valves left!
Kind of makes you wonder if the valves did hit, but the mismatched pushrod cups broke before the valves bent...
 
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Even my TRW L2291F pistons had 4 valve reliefs but they had arrows to show which was facing towards the front of the block. It may be due to the design. Maybe there is more strength in the thrust side of the piston around the pin area? Greg's pistons only have 2 reliefs in them anyways.

Keep in mind Greg that the valves mirror eachother on each side of the head. Here is the pattern. EI - EI - IE - IE
 
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ratsmoker
Even my TRW L2291F pistons had 4 valve reliefs but they had arrows to show which was facing towards the front of the block. It may be due to the design. Maybe there is more strength in the thrust side of the piston around the pin area?
I think the wrist pin is offset to one side slightly, so based on the rotation of the crank, the pistons need to all be lined up in the right direction (hence the arrow pointing to the front of the motor). I could be very wrong, though.

Scouder, as to the oil hole, it's in the big-end of the rod, and it squirts oil up into the cylinder, as the hole in the crank passes the hole in the rod. If it's in backwards, it won't lube the cylinder or not as well. I THINK the FE rods have the hole in it, on the side, where the bearing cap meets the rod. The bearing shell has a little dip on the end, allowing oil to escape through the hole. I have to go look at a rod now
 
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Old May 15, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratsmoker
Even my TRW L2291F pistons had 4 valve reliefs but they had arrows to show which was facing towards the front of the block. It may be due to the design. Maybe there is more strength in the thrust side of the piston around the pin area?
If I remember right my TRW forgings (I think I had the same part number as you, except only 0.040 over) have pins offset, lagging the direction of rotation. That's why they need teh arrows.
 
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Old May 15, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Well sounds like greg has things well in had? LOL!! Its beer thirty here and the truck is clean and the wife and I sre headed to Roanoke for sat..cruise in... and a burger..

See ya'LL when we get back!! Have fun and keep Greg and Sean out of the fridge?
Russ
 
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