Gas Prices!!
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Originally Posted by jschaible
I don't think anyone even thinks about what this is doing to the lower income families and young kids just starting out. They can only afford cheap cars which are usually the big, old cars with V8's. These are the folks that are working for minimum wage, they can't afford to work if this keeps going on. I have a 19 yr old daughter that is working part-time at minimum wage and trying to go to college part-time. This is killing her since work, home and school are a ways apart from each other and she is driving about 100 miles a day. Single parent families are struggling too, how is this going to effect them? I don't think those gas companies care as long as they line their pockets. It's just a bad deal all the way around. Just my 2 cents!
Honestly, my only hope is to find a smaller vehicle (like a mini) by the time I start commuting to college. But (by my own choice) I do refuse to give up my bronco. If my friend never shows up to buy my jeep I'll probably be the first kid on the block under 20 to ahve 3 cars
But to keep the bronco I'm going to have to invest in a smaller car for daily trips 
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From: Quispamsis, N.B, Canada
Geez you fella's think you've got it bad, up here in N.B Canada we pay 93.9 cents.litre!!! That's so brutal! I was thinking of selling my truck......hhhmmmmm nah I'll just lift her and throw on some bigger tires! 
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Seattle is averaging $2.45, but is it really smart to pay omre money for a fuel efficient car? Either way you are spending money, but; car payment+gas>gas you pay more that way anyway. If your concern is the environment, then buy the gas sipping foreign car, otherwise save your money and drive what you have, just make it run right.
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You do not have to wait in line at the pumps, because the price of fuel is up to control demand. The price is controlling the demand. If Gas were .89 a gallon, you would be in long lines at the pump. Higher price, people use less. Simple lesson in supply side economics.
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From: None of your business
We import a lot of refined gasoline right off of the ships into the tanks. That's refined gasoline, not crude. Other countries have plenty of refining capability, at a premium. Our refineries are strangled by regulation. On top of that, many have to shut down all the time for changes from increased regulation, thus decreasing the domestic supply of gasoline even further and driving prices up.
I have an idea. Lets start building joint prison/refineries. Have the prisoners work off thier debt to society and give us rock bottom gas prices.
Mike
I have an idea. Lets start building joint prison/refineries. Have the prisoners work off thier debt to society and give us rock bottom gas prices.
Mike
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From: Detroit, MI
Originally Posted by BLK94F150
I have an idea. Lets start building joint prison/refineries. Have the prisoners work off thier debt to society and give us rock bottom gas prices.
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Price of gasoline In Vancouver B.C. today $.995 per liter. I'm fortunate enought to live on the U.S./Canada border. Price in Blaine today was 2.30 per gallon. Even with the difference in the U.S. gallon and money exchange, I still saved $7 plus on a fill of 13 gallons. No wait at the border. All done in 15 minutes. God bless the U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by golfboy17
Is completley wrong, us as americans depend on gas for our everyday life, if gas was .89 cents there would still be no lines as long as the prices were comprable at all stations, the lines would not be any shorter or longer. People now are still buying gas i know with me i just think twice do i really have to or want to go out tonight or go to this place, i dont find my self using less gas than i did and am sure a lot of you are the same way, i probally would not use any more gas if the price was .89 cents.....What you said about supply and demand is ussually true, but not on gas since we depend on it for everything we do.
The principles of supply and demand are always true, no matter what. It doesnt matter how much you depend on gas, all that means is that youd be willing to pay a very high price to use it.
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Originally Posted by golfboy17
Is completley wrong, us as americans depend on gas for our everyday life, if gas was .89 cents there would still be no lines as long as the prices were comprable at all stations, the lines would not be any shorter or longer. People now are still buying gas i know with me i just think twice do i really have to or want to go out tonight or go to this place, i dont find my self using less gas than i did and am sure a lot of you are the same way, i probally would not use any more gas if the price was .89 cents.....What you said about supply and demand is ussually true, but not on gas since we depend on it for everything we do.
It is true that was all depend on gasoline how ever 90% of pick up and suv drivers could get buy with something smaller and more efficent and when prices go up you will see people getting rid of their gas guzzling trucks and suv's faster than you can shake a stick. Personaly I welcome high gas prices, they insure that there is enough profit to build new refineries and to stop people from irresponsible waste.
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From: Deer Park
Just had to throw my $.02 in...
I'm what you could probably consider low-income, 19 years old working for near-minimum wage, with about a 75 mile (total per day) commute. When I started paying $50 a week just for gas I decided I'd had enough. Now my '65 F-250 sits in the driveway, while my Dad's '82 Toyota Corolla gets me to and from work every day. I hate it to heck, but I'm not spending a fifth of my income on gas now. Yeah, it's been said that it doesn't make sense to buy a fuel-efficient car just 'cause of gas prices, but we had the little 4-banger sitting there gathering rust, at least it'll get me through the tough times. At least, I hope prices are going to go down again eventually. I know I know, we're going to run out of oil eventually, but A. It'll be after I'm dead and gone, and B. We're sure to come up some sort of alternative. Maybe shifting over to Methanol? I've heard current engines can be converted rather painlessly, can anyone confirm this?
On a related note, maybe this'll be the excuse I need to get that motorcycle!!!
I'm what you could probably consider low-income, 19 years old working for near-minimum wage, with about a 75 mile (total per day) commute. When I started paying $50 a week just for gas I decided I'd had enough. Now my '65 F-250 sits in the driveway, while my Dad's '82 Toyota Corolla gets me to and from work every day. I hate it to heck, but I'm not spending a fifth of my income on gas now. Yeah, it's been said that it doesn't make sense to buy a fuel-efficient car just 'cause of gas prices, but we had the little 4-banger sitting there gathering rust, at least it'll get me through the tough times. At least, I hope prices are going to go down again eventually. I know I know, we're going to run out of oil eventually, but A. It'll be after I'm dead and gone, and B. We're sure to come up some sort of alternative. Maybe shifting over to Methanol? I've heard current engines can be converted rather painlessly, can anyone confirm this?
On a related note, maybe this'll be the excuse I need to get that motorcycle!!!
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From: nebraska
Hey country hacker dont feel too bad people are doing all kind of things with these gas prices. If that car gets you from point a to point B thats all that counts. Even if I had all kinds of money I would try to save where I could. No use giving it to all the fuel companies. A car makes more sense than a truck if you can go that route. These gas prices are horrible.
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From: Lake Havasu City AZ
Originally Posted by calgary_redneck
<It is obvious this person has a very limited understanding of supply and damand.> Personal remarks edited out by FTE
It is true that was all depend on gasoline how ever 90% of pick up and suv drivers could get buy with something smaller and more efficent and when prices go up you will see people getting rid of their gas guzzling trucks and suv's faster than you can shake a stick. Personaly I welcome high gas prices, they insure that there is enough profit to build new refineries and to stop people from irresponsible waste.
It is true that was all depend on gasoline how ever 90% of pick up and suv drivers could get buy with something smaller and more efficent and when prices go up you will see people getting rid of their gas guzzling trucks and suv's faster than you can shake a stick. Personaly I welcome high gas prices, they insure that there is enough profit to build new refineries and to stop people from irresponsible waste.