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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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Moonroof?

Alright, I need some opinions on the moonroof. You guys convinced me to get the leather seats, now I just need a little arm twisting to get this. Is there anything BAD about it? Is it worth the 800 clams? I think it looks way better than the overhead rail system, agree or disagree? My order was sent in this morning, so I only have a few days to decide on this one. Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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519DVX DRIVES A DODGE

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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love mine, nothing like it.
With the moon roof and power rear window open, it cuts down on the need to use the AC without giving your wife a bad hair day !
Get the roof.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Nothing like riding high in a truck AND having the open air feeling that used to only be available in coupes and sedans, best of both worlds. The rail system is SUPPOSED to be pretty flexible for modular addons in the future but as of now it isn't anything special. You'll be happier with the Moonroof. Maybe in a year or two, the rail system will be something to weigh against the moonroof but as of this year, there is no contest.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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The moon roof is nice. I think it's a better option than the rail system. Whether or not it's worth $800 is up to you. And my only complaints would be that when it's closed, the cover does not open all the way and let in all the light. Also the controls and all the positions can be a little confusing.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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I did not want the moonroof seeing that the one in my lexus rarley ever gets used dont even open the slider that exposes the glass much less open it. But you have to have it for resale on the lexus not so on the truck would have been a waste for me..
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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I'm with thosetwins- I never open the one in my Town Car. On the other hand, when you have a convertible, a moonroof doesn't seem like such a big deal. As for the shade not opening all the way: if it DID slide back ALL the way, then the handle for closing it would be hidden INSIDE the roof panel, and you wouldn't be able to close it. The front edge of the shade actually has an arc to it, so it does let in maximum light at the sides; it bows towards the center, creating a spot for the handle to close it. I suppose Ford could have made it slide back about another half-inch, but would that really have made a difference in letting in appreciably more light? And then there are the "controls (plural):" I can find only one button to operate the moonroof. I'm not sure how Ford could have made it less complicated; it operates like a power window button, with the addition of the vent setting.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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When I first tried to push the shade all the way back it stopped. I wondered why ford did'nt notch the headliner around the pull handle? It opens all the way when the glass is open. I would have rather had the headliner notched than to not have the shade open all the way. I do really like to moonroof. The sun is not filtered and feels nice.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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I agree TRITON-ic.

The original post did ask for opinions, but the arguments that 1956 brought up just don't make sense.....

I suppose Ford could have made it slide back about another half-inch, but would that really have made a difference in letting in appreciably more light?
I just measured it. There are 4" of shade that will not open completely. For an opening that's only 15" total, this is a substantial amount (25%). This not only sticks out like a sore thumb when looking at the headliner, but obviously it does restrict light. BTW, the shade will open all the way, but only with the moonroof slider all the way open, which makes no sense at all.

And then there are the "controls (plural):" I can find only one button to operate the moonroof. I'm not sure how Ford could have made it less complicated; it operates like a power window button, with the addition of the vent setting.
And that is the point. That one button has 13 functions! I can't believe you don't think it's complicated. ??

Pressing "forward" on the button will do 7 independent things.

When holding the "forward" button down it will:

1. Open the vent completely.
2. Close slider from the 2nd open postition (all the way open) and stop.
3. Completely close slider from the 1st open postition (partially open).

When temporarily holding the "forward" button down it will:

4. Open the vent to any intermediate position.
5. Stop the slider when it is sliding back.
6. Close slider to any intermediate position in the 2nd postition.
7. Close the slider to any intermediate position in the 1st position.

Pressing "back" on the button will do 6 things:

When holding the "back" button down it will:

8. Open slider all the way to 1st postition.
9. Close vent completely.

When temporarily holding the "back" button down it will:

10. Open slider in any intermediate position to 1st open position.
11. Open slider in any intermediate position in 2nd open position.
12. Close vent in any intermediate position.

13. The "back" button must be pressed twice consecutively to open the slider completely.

That's 13 functions for one button! Figure that out when you're driving down the road. Sorry 1956, but a power window button in much different.

I still like the moonroof, but think Ford could've done a better job for $800. Fortunately I knew this when I bought the truck. The overhead rack system didn't appeal to me.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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You tell 'em CruelScrew!

Get the moonroof. I love mine. It is always open and the rear slider is open too. Very little wind/road noise. On hot days when it's parked I just shut the screen to keep the sun out.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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I agree InboundFX4. Hard not to have it open. And it does a good job with the noise.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CruelCrew
...I just measured it. There are 4" of shade that will not open completely. For an opening that's only 15" total, this is a substantial amount (25%). This not only sticks out like a sore thumb when looking at the headliner, but obviously it does restrict light. BTW, the shade will open all the way, but only with the moonroof slider all the way open, which makes no sense at all...And that is the point. That one button has 13 functions! I can't believe you don't think it's complicated. ??...
This is weird: Ford must be using 2 different sunroofs. I just measured one out on the lot, and there is, at the very most, about 1" of glass that's covered by the sliding panel when it's pushed all the way back. As for the switch, you press it once quick and the sunroof opens all the way. Hold the switch and it closes. Hit the "close" switch with it closed, and it opens to the vent position. Hit the "open" side of the switch, and the vent closes. That's it- 4 operations, not 13. Like I said: Ford must be using different suppliers for their sunroofs, 'cause ours ain't working anything like yours!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Get the moonroof...you'll never be sorry...heading down the road on a cool Texas night with the roof open and the rear sliding window open is a treat.

ENJOY!!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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By 1956MarkII

That's it- 4 operations, not 13.
Sorry 1956, there's not two different moonroof's. It's just that you don't know all the things your moonroof does (if you have one), and apparently you haven't even read your owner's manual.


you press it once quick and the sunroof opens all the way.
No. That will only open it to the 1st postition, or what Ford calls the "comfort" position. There is one more position left.

Hold the switch and it closes.
Not really. If the moonroof is fully open (past the "comfort" position), holding the switch will only close it back to the "comfort" position. Then it will automatically stop. At this point the moonroof is still 3/4 open. You must release the switch, and depress it yet again to get the moonroof to completely close. Releasing the switch at any time during closing, either in the completely open position, or in the "comfort" position, will stop the moonroof at any random position. That's 4 things just right there.

Hit the "close" switch with it closed, and it opens to the vent position.
No, there's more to it than that. If you press the close switch once quick, the vent will not fully open. It will only open according to how long you hold the switch, allowing any amount of random open position. You must continue to hold the switch down to open the vent all the way until it stops. You are also unaware that hitting this switch will stop the moonroof (not the vent) when opening at any random position.

Hit the "open" side of the switch, and the vent closes.
No, again there's more to it. If you press the open switch once quick, the vent will not fully close. It will only close according to how long you hold the switch, allowing any amount of random closed position. You must continue to hold the switch down to close the vent all the way until it stops.

It appears you are entirely unaware that the moonroof has two open positions; completely open and the "comfort" position. And it appears you don't know how to use the button for the functions that allow both the vent and moonroof to stop in any desired random position.

Even the owner's manual suggests at least 8 functions...and they neglect to mention the functions used to stop the moonroof and vent at the various or random positions....

"Note: The moon roof will open to the "comfort" position first before opening all the way. The "comfort" position helps to alleviate rumbling wind noise which may happen in the vehicle with the roof fully opened.

To open the moon roof: The moon roof is equipped with a one-touch open feature. Press and release the ^^ control.(1) The moon roof will open to the "comfort" position. Press and release the control again to fully open.(2) To stop the one-touch open feature press either the ^^ or ^ control again.(3 & 4)

To close the moon roof: Press and hold the ^ control until the glass panel stops at the "comfort" position.(5) Press and hold the control again until the glass stops moving.(6) When fully closed, the rear portion of the glass panel will appear higher than the front portion.

To vent the moon roof: Press and hold the ^ control.(7) The moon roof must be in the closed position in order to move it into the vent position. To close, press and hold the ^^ control until the glass panel stops moving.(8)"


As far as the shade goes, I just measured 3 other ones at my dealer. Each one is 4" from opening all the way. This blocks light, especially if you sit in the rear seats where the angle of the unclosed shade will block about 1/4 of the light. Again, it does open all the way when the moon roof is opened completely. I fail to see why the shade couldn't open all the way when the roof is closed. And I can't see why anyone wouldn't want the shade to open all the way.

1956, there is no denying that the control is confusing. My guess is that very few people can operate this thing without making a mistake, getting it to do what they want on the first try, or hitting the button wrong. Your confusion on the matter is a prime example. After all, Ford uses the "open" function to close and "close" function to open....We've put the vent and slider on the same button....We have a two postion slider....And we have quick touch, hold down, or random thing going on....All on one button! Whew!

It doesn't matter to me, I've found I get it open and closed no matter how much I have to fiddle with the button. I do love the moon roof. Just thought the fellow asking the original question might like a heads up, that's all. I'm not sure why you want to argue and give him bad information.
 

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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Wow, I didn't mean to create an uprising! Settle down guys. I was simply asking "Is the moonroof worth paying the $700 extra?" I've talked to a few people that have them that I know, plus you guys on here, and the general consensus is YES! So, I'm going to have it added to my order. Thanks guys. This is cool though, I'll be a pro at operating my moonroof before I even get it!
 
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