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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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On a rollover

Slightly offtopic, but I was googling 'ford rollover probability' and came across the URL http://www.usatoday.com/money/consum...s/mauto695.htm

The site lists cars and trucks with an estimated rollover probability that is based on the height of the center of gravity divided by the track width. The following is a summary.
  • 1% to 4% --- wide and low vehicles (note: not particularly fuel efficient) includes lincoln town car, mercedes 500 series, BMW 740 and 528. All very wide vehicles. Very unlikely to rollover.
  • 4% to 7% --- midsize low sporty autos. Includes Jaguar S, Lexus GS400, Lincoln LS. Not many entries in this category, really
  • 7% to 10% --- small cars, some minivans. Honda Accord is here, but so is the Honda oddesy. Mazda 626, porche 911, subaru legacy are other examples.
  • 10% to 14% EXCURSION. We share this category with: ford focus, doge neon, dodge caravan, chevy cavalier, acura integra, subaru impreza, VW new beetle and Honda CIVIC.
  • 14% to 18% a few notables: Toyota sienna, Mercedes M-class, Navigator/Expedition, GMC Yukon and friends, and the F350.
  • 18% to 22% some suvs and trucks here: chevy Siverado, acura SLX, durango, land rover rangerover, Suzuki swift (?!?)
  • 22% to 27% Many more suvs and trucks: chevy S-10, land rover Discovery, nissan pathfinder, explorer 4 door, chevy S-10, toyota tundra.
  • 27% to 32% somewhat silly vehicles: Blazer 2dr, PT Cruzier (ok, I lied... this is a stupid vehicle), explorer 2dr, jeep grand cherokee, Montero sport, Xterra, 4runner.
  • 32% to 38% Silly Vehicles: Subaru Forrester, Kia Sportage, Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger, Honda CRV, Jeep Cherokee, Kia sportage
  • 38% to 43% Truly silly vehicles:Suzuki Vitra, Toyota RAV4, Chevy tracker.
I may have missed a few or misclassifed (one up or down) a couple, but wow... the Excursion rates as relatively rollover safe.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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I'm shocked that ANY of those type post would allow the excursion to be on the good side of the ledger
it's the HEAVY engine so low n the frame that holds it down...
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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I work hard I play hard...end of story

I think if you purchase insurance (life or otherwise) you need to be consistent across the board. In other words why would you bet on your mortality without giving yourself the best possible chance of survival? Does that make sense?

At the end of the day nothing has changed in the last 4000 years... its still survival of the fittest. The caveman with the sharpest spear kills the most food blah blah blah...
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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I use my X for road trips. Bought it with 72k on it last summer. Now has 110k on it. No problems so far. I haul trailers full of motorcycles and I pull a trailer with a 6000 lb. Land Rover Discovery trail rig on it.

I have also pulled a trailer with a large, damaged airplane on it and still got 14mpg with it.

What I find amzing is that I can do 75 mph on the freeway, in the hills, and the car doesn't even seem like it's loafing. My girlfriend and I have been all over the US in it and with a few touch ups like XM radio, DVD, and a tempurpedic mattrress in the back, it's just plain ol comfortable to travel in.

In fact, I'm thinking about getting a lower milage 7.3 for the stable because when my current x dies, I may not be able to find a suitable replacement.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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You say you need another X for when your current one dies. Unless it rusts out don't plan on replacing that engine for years.

Driven many different vehicles over the years and there's no doubt which one is the best.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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I bought my X new last year and traded in my 2000 Caddy (which was by the way the biggest piece of junk I have ever owned - was more in the shop then on the road). Since we have two kids and also drive the vehicle on vacations, there is simply no comparison to the Excursion. Room, comfort and safety certainly will rate with an A+++.

I am in Real Estate and transport quite a number of customers. Usually they are very impressed by the size and comfort they find in an Excursion. Some even mentioned they would trade in their Chevy's

Anyway, I agree with a lot of posts here, that even if the price of fuel is more costly right now, it can't buy back your own or your families life or health if you are getting in a serious accident with one of those Mickey Mouse cars.

My wife drives a 2000 Durango and I have to say that the Excursion has a definately the better road handeling and grip, even my vehicles is so much taller (4x4). Ok, I have 33's on mine, which certainly improve the grip, but still, I don't experience the sway as I do when I drive the Durango to the car wash... I won't go any further than that in it....

Service and friendlyness of my dealership is excellent and that is just another reason why I would not give my X away any more. Simply the best vehicle I have ever owned.

Long live the Excursion!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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I used to be one of those people who wondered why anyone would want to drive an SUV. I've always been more of a sports car freak. My idea of a big wagon used to be a Volvo Station Wagon. Well, times and priorities change. We now have three kids, tow a trailer, camp, take long trips, drive across the state for kids' sports events,etc.

I also work as a firefighter, so I get to see the aftermath of peoples' bad driving. When it came time to replace my wife's VW EuroVan last year, it came down to two vehicles: an Excursion or a Suburban. We've never owned an American vehicle, so we had no preference. We drove both and the decision was unquestionable; we loved the X and hated the Suburban. I didn't even know it had a V10 until after we decided to buy it! The gas mileage sucks, it handles like a truck, but other than that, it's one of the best vehicles I think is on the road. Safety is obviously a concern, and I rest easier when I'm at work and know my wife is on the road with the kids in the X.

Of course, my daily driver is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper which could probably fit in the Excursion. It makes up for the X's handling (like a go-cart on wheels) and gas mileage (40-50 mpg).

Funny thing: when we were in Santa Fe, our hosts were appauled that we would drive such a vehicle. Her: "Do you know how many third world countries you could feed with the money you spend on fuel?" My answer: "Good thing I don't give money to third world countries, eh." It went downhill from there. She loved the fact I drive a Mini, but I didn't even want to breach the subject that the Mini puts out more pollutants in its one-mile drive to work than the X will in a year.

My ecclectic collection of oil drippers:

http://home.comcast.net/~toddvess/ws...ome.html-.html
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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FirstFord:

Nice collection of vehicles you have... !

I have the perfect picture for you - you just gonna love it, but I don't know how to insert a picture from my harddrive in the text here...

If you know how, let me know, and I'll post it right here... Thanks


 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Thanks, yes, quite the mish mash of vehicles.

I don't know how to post to the board, so you can send me the pics off line:

toddvess@comcast.net
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Monsta:

Let me ask you a non-Ford related question: How did you get the pictures right in your message box? Any help on how to embed a .jpg file for example would be appreciated...

Thanks ahead of time!
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dougger222
You say you need another X for when your current one dies. Unless it rusts out don't plan on replacing that engine for years.

Driven many different vehicles over the years and there's no doubt which one is the best.
I usually drive my cars to death.
 
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BBBxcursion
I drive one because I have wanted one for about 2 years and they are bad ***! The diesel is just a bonus to me
Me too! Except only for two months. I couldn't wait two years.
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ExcursionUSA
Monsta:

Let me ask you a non-Ford related question: How did you get the pictures right in your message box? Any help on how to embed a .jpg file for example would be appreciated...

Thanks ahead of time!
Set up your gallery with pictures and link to it in your post.
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Ok... still have problems with the picture in the message, so let's see if that works...

If not, you can check out my gallery now... that's working for sure... I already tried it...

So have some weekend fun with your Excursion!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...?userid=115567
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcursionUSA
Ok... still have problems with the picture in the message, so let's see if that works...

If not, you can check out my gallery now... that's working for sure... I already tried it...

So have some weekend fun with your Excursion!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...?userid=115567
Surround the URL with [ img ] tags.


See? (Hit QUOTE to see what I did.

 
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