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Feb 22, 2004 | 01:57 PM

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RICE H8R

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Originally posted by rebel_ford4x4
you cant remove the cat without the check engline light coming on, on a 95 or 96 f series because there is 2 o2 sensors. 1 before the cat and 1 after. the 92-94s are ok, they only have the first sensor

i have a 95 F-150 and it only has one o2 sensor on it. so maybe its just my pickup, but i thought it was 92-95's are ok. i could put true duals on it, but 1)my exhaust shop wouldnt do it 2)i dont have a pipe bender and 3)cat-back that i will be having done hopefully in a month is a lot cheaper.

Feb 22, 2004 | 09:56 PM

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why would a muffler shop turn down a customer? theres a guy local that just did my friends for 550 true duals, but i never noticed the diffrence untill now between the summit mufflers and a flowmaster, i thought the were simmilar, but mine sounds more like a glasspack, oh well still rumbles the car behind you, thats all that is important. expecially if its a street racer.

Feb 23, 2004 | 01:31 PM

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theres a guy local that just did my friends for 550 true duals

i hope you dont mean 550 bucks for true duals.

i only paid 207 after tax and thats including the extra fee to have my cat removed.

Feb 23, 2004 | 04:39 PM

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RICE H8R

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Originally posted by ATC_250SX
why would a muffler shop turn down a customer? theres a guy local that just did my friends for 550 true duals...

they turned me down because i wanted the cats cut off. they didnt want to get involved in that sort of stuff. made me wonder if maybe they got caught doing it or something. and man i hope that isnt $550...my friend had his done for $153 for true duals. well total after mufflers and tips it was about $280 or so. if they charged him $550, he got ripped off IMO.

Feb 23, 2004 | 05:30 PM

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nd4spd

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$550? woooah....i got mine done for like 160...w/ turndowns...although i already had one muffler, didnt put on headers too... depends on what they did for 550....

Feb 23, 2004 | 09:39 PM

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ATC_250SX

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manifolds back, new hi flow cats, flowmasters all custom bent 2.5 inch pipe. welded. its a pretty good price for around here to have a custom echaust made to fit your truck the way you want it, seeing how midas and minakee, are just to damn dumb to do it.

Feb 23, 2004 | 10:50 PM

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wildsidecreations

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Originally posted by ATC_250SX
well i can see that then if you go to small and try to force the exhaust out of it, but what size are you running after the cats?

I ran 2.5 all the way from the tips of the exhaust manifolds out the side. I do have a V6 thought which means only 3 cylinders per pipe. Anybody who knows anything about exhaust tuning will tell you that gives you an odd pulse order out the pipe. I think I HAVE lost low end becuse she;s a real dog off the line! I have thought about putting in an "H" pipe to balance the pulses. What do you guys think?

Feb 24, 2004 | 05:00 AM

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openclasspro

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From: irwin,pa

x-pipe- 2 1/4" pipe

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Feb 24, 2004 | 08:55 AM

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what is the difference or benefit of an "X" configuratation as opssoed to an "H" setup? the "X" would have 2 conections on each pipe, does this help the balancing more?

Feb 24, 2004 | 03:00 PM

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openclasspro

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yes better scavenging

Feb 24, 2004 | 10:14 PM

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wildsidecreations

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oh....... It's called scavenging. LOL!

Mar 4, 2004 | 07:59 AM

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nd4spd

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Originally posted by wildsidecreations
I ran 2.5 all the way from the tips of the exhaust manifolds out the side. I do have a V6 thought which means only 3 cylinders per pipe. Anybody who knows anything about exhaust tuning will tell you that gives you an odd pulse order out the pipe. I think I HAVE lost low end becuse she;s a real dog off the line! I have thought about putting in an "H" pipe to balance the pulses. What do you guys think?

what exactly does an H or X pipe do besides sort of the exhaust gases? does it make it sound better? ive heard it makes it a little bit quieter...

Mar 4, 2004 | 03:15 PM

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openclasspro

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go 2 1/4" with x-pipe- you'll be much happier- balances flow out and increasesa scavenging-aka velocity maintained

Mar 4, 2004 | 05:52 PM

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99xlt4.04x4

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it is still only one connection, just the angle is smaller so the gasses dont have to slow down and turn, they just flow together.

Mar 5, 2004 | 03:51 PM

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nd4spd

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Originally posted by openclasspro
go 2 1/4" with x-pipe- you'll be much happier- balances flow out and increasesa scavenging-aka velocity maintained

while increasing scavegning, will it make it sound better? i guess i should say...more of a rumble?...im thinking of fabing one up myself...is there any particular place i should place it?

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