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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by acerockola77
Please enlighten me on why you think Toyota is so terrible, besides the fact that it is foreign.
Why Toyota is a terrible choice as a work truck IMO.

1.) Overall dimensions are not on par with what Americans consider to be a full sized truck- it's closer to a Dakota in size.

2.) No HD manual option- maybe even no manual option at all anymore.

3.) Payload capacities are too light for a work truck - American half tons can at least handle some decent weight.

4.) Frames are not comparable with those on domestic trucks.

5.) Rear differential is too small for serious work and towing- even if it was geared at 4.56 or so- the ring diameter would not be sufficient to provide enough sheer strength to handle loaded trailers all day long. Rangers and S10's have larger differentials.

6.) 27,000.00 MSRP for a 2wd base reg cab is ridiculous. I could buy the same configuration Ram 2500 with Cummins diesel below invoice for 1500.00 LESS, and have three times as much truck.

7.) Replacement parts are expensive - priced more like diesel parts than small gasoline motor parts.

8.) Worst cases of rust I've ever seen on any older trucks. Rust after time is not usually a big deal on a work truck- but even knock around trucks need their sheet metal components to maintain some sort of structural integrity.

Inspite of all this the Nissan got my vote for the one I hate most - it's so ugly that it even makes the Chev front end look sweet It's so prima donna looking- that even the Toyota Tundra looks masculine sitting next to it.

GMC was not on the list I wonder why? It can't simply be lumped in with the Chevy, I mean even though structurally they are the same truck, cosmetically they are worlds apart on the front ends.
The GMC is one smooth looking rig- it's been described as classier and more mature than the Chevy, and smoother and more conservative than the Ford and Dodges are with those huge front grills. Seems to fit the description- I'd buy one, though I also like those big noses on the Ford's and Dodge's.. Not a 4x4 though- that's for sure.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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I chose "cheesy" because thats exactly what the new ones are, nothing works, everything is put together cheaply, I think they are junk

Nissan makes stuff that lasts forever, dont have a problem with it, if you like a small truck

Toyota, same thing as nissan

Dodge, dont have much opinion either way other than I dont like the front ends on the brand new ones, or the silly pasenger car tires they put on em
 
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Please enlighten me on why you think Toyota is so terrible, besides the fact that it is foreign.
Foreign has nothing to do with it. If it dosen't have a blue oval on the grill, I'm not interested. That's why I hang out on Ford themed websites, what's your excuse.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Dude, I think your spelling is a bit off! I'd choose the KNeesan.
Ummm, for those of us that remember, they were Datsun. Best to just remember them as such. For a year or two back in the 80's it seems as if they had no clue what their name was so they put both names on the cars
 
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Nissan is 48% owned by Renault Motor Company, a fr3nch company.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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I voted chevy because if all the ones i've owned were terrible. (4)
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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i voted toymotor because they all but copied the 97-03(04 heritage) f150, were gonna call it the t150 until ford stepped in and put a stop to it....darn copycats, oh well, at least they tried to copy the best. i have driven chevy's that were ok i guess.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by cookie88
Foreign has nothing to do with it. If it dosen't have a blue oval on the grill, I'm not interested. That's why I hang out on Ford themed websites, what's your excuse.
I didn't realise that a prerequset of visiting ford websites was to hate every other brand of vehicles. I have owned all Fords and continue to, but the Toyota truck that I inherited has been nothing but good to me, IMO they make a good light duty truck. What I was curious about is why you chose Toyota over the rest of them, maybe some constructive criticism like sinister73 listed, that's all.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:33 AM
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I voted for Kneesan because it is owned by the French.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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I voted Cheesy, as Ive seen Dodge last a while, Nissans are good "trucks"... we had one. Toyota has outlasted my cousins chevy, so I voted Chevy
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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i didn't vote because i have to vote for all of them. I have seen some crap from all of them.
 
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