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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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Question Improving the gas milage....

First let me just say it makes me sick to dummy down my truck , but the price of gas is killing me....

I have a 1978 F-250 460 V8 Dana60 4.10 possi with 30 inch tires. I get about 8 mpg. I want to improve the gas milage. I don't much care about the tow capacity. I'm wondering if I put 33 inch tires and a 3.54 gear in the dana60, if this would improve my gas milage?
Also if those changes work (out side of getting another truck), is there anything else that might help?

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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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my buddy gets 13 in his bronco with 33s, 3.50, and a built 400
install a mild 400 and 4sp along with 3.54 gears and 33s.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Go with the 3.54' and the 30' tires. You go much lower and it will get worse because the converter will slip too much.
I am going from 3.00 to 3.50's and keeping my 32" tires to get the 2mpg back that I lost from removing 3.50's and installing the 3.00's.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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You can also get an RV or towing converter that has less slip if you are running a C6.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Yes, my trans is a C6. When you say the converter, do you mean the torque converter? also if I am understanding this correctly, the 3.54 and the 33" tires will cause it to slip?

sorry, I'm pretty new to this.
Thanks for the replies.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Anything that requires increased torque from the engine will increase the slip rate of the torque converter. It is more effective to change the diff ratio than it is to change tire size. Big meats will often wear faster negating any gains in fuel mileage.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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Thanks for the info. I'll keep my 30" tires and just change the gear ratio to 3.54.

I just found out that my Torque Converter Model number is FM43, but I'm not sure who the manufacturer is. I've been looking on the net all evening for any info on it, but can't find anything. I'd like to find out the specs and stall speed etc. Anyone know where I can go look these up?

Also I'm thinking of changing the 460 engine to a 302. Will this work? Are they interchangable in my truck? Or should I ask this in another forum?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by nlhawk


Also I'm thinking of changing the 460 engine to a 302. Will this work? Are they interchangable in my truck? Or should I ask this in another forum?
Im a newbie too nlhawk, but I think I have an idea for you, for the cost of ripping out your 460 and putting in a 302, why dont you use the money for a piece'o'junk that gets 15 or 20 mpg and drive your truck when you want to, built and setup the way you enjoy it, instead of spending money to castrate it so you can afford to drive it

just my .02

kevin
 
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There is not much you can do to get better milage. Gear swaps are not cheap either, and the tires will definatly hurt the milage. I would concentrate on making the engine run well. Get a good new carb with an electric choke, and jet it down. Rebuild or replace the the distributor and set the timing conservatively 6-8 deg. at idle and no more than 34-36 deg. at 2500 rpm. also, if you have a big cam, get one that is a good RV/milage high torque cam. I have called crane and comp cams, and they will help you choose one that matches gears/compression/trans/use. I don't think a carbed 302 will help milage much, and you will hate the power on a "built for good milage" 302. You will have the 302 at WOT all the time which will waste as much gas as the 460. An EFI 5.0 with overdrive might be good though, a lot of work, but very cool. check out www.fordfuelinjection.com
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Bigperm2,

This makes good sense. I was talking to a friend late last night and he explained to me almost the exact same thing. I don't really want to change out the engine anyway, I just want the thing to perform well, but without blowing the gross national product out the tailpipe eveytime I fire it up....
Thanks, I am going to follow your advice on all points.

nlhawk
 
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